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Photo by Michael Lane

Mary Drew at Pasty Central on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 06:57 am:

Michael Lane gives us a peek at his roommate all prepared for goose hunting season, in search of the once endangered fowl. I think you'll agree this photo gives us plenty of reasons to get out in the wide open spaces, whether or not you're into hunting. Just look at that blue sky and those fluffy clouds passing overhead. If you close your eyes for a second, you can almost feel a slight breeze bending the tall weeds in the foreground. This scene really captures the feel of near-perfect conditions we've enjoyed lately here in the U.P.

Wasn't that a beautiful full Harvest Moon this morning? Actually, tomorrow is the official date, according to the Farmer's Almanac... and NEXT month will bring the "full hunter's moon".

By smf in troll land on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 06:58 am:

Good morning
First Post

By Marko on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 07:10 am:

Makes ya homesick for sure.

By JBM .CenterLine Mi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 07:34 am:

What a pretty sunrise at the airport.

By JBM .CenterLine Mi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 07:38 am:

Also I wish everyone who knows Dan Judnich in Lake Linden, to wish him a happy 50 birthday which is tommorow. Welcome to the club. From one of the club members.

By Charlotte, Mishawaka, IN on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 07:39 am:

Good morning from Mishawaka, IN.

By jean, west texas on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 07:47 am:

Saw some pics on J. Dee's website and have to wonder...where is the color?? I remember growing up in L.L. and having peak color on my B-day...9/23. Maybe that indian summer.....

By yooper at college on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 07:57 am:

mornin from a *crisp* grand forks north dakota

By Ms. Katie on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:02 am:

Top o' the mornin to all. 'Tis fall, my favorite time of the year!

By anita, lp on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:11 am:

morning all. have a blessed day.

By THC $Bay on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:17 am:

Just back from a trip downstate. The best color between the Copper Country and Midland MI is found near Sanford Lake, MI on I-75. It appears that the leaves will just turn brown and drop off in most locations this year without to much spectacular color. Lack of a frost may be the cause???

Migration report: The roads are clogged with Winnebagos, Honeys, and other RVís - Ad infinitum, ad nauseam, going . . . well, who knows where??

Message to teenage girls: Hang up your phone, slow down, and pay attention to your driving. Teenage girls were the worst drivers I saw on this trip!!

By DH, Flushing, MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:33 am:

Just back from a 3 day week-end trip to Houghton with the best color being seen around Lake Michigame. Enjoyed the Hockey Anniversary Celebration & seeing my son at Michigan Tech. Coldn't have asked for better weather! Wish I was still there, but back to work today!

By Marie, Howell, MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:36 am:

We are getting excited down here in Howell only 4 more days until we get to see our son, Buzz, up at Mich Tech!! Whatever color the leaves are will be spectacular because we will be together! The UP is beautiful! The only colors we will down state are the orange of the barrels! Can't wait!!!

By Larry IN on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:36 am:

Any insurance adjustor will tell you that teenage girls are less likley to be involved in an accident than their male counterparts. Bet this opens a can of worms

By L-O-V-E Pastycam! on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:39 am:

Good morning All,

This scene is indeed another calming, wonderful picture of the UP.

Heehee... when I first saw the pic of the day I thought that 'hunter' was an old broken off tree trunk!! Maybe what the geese are supposed to see??

By JJ MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:43 am:

6 days till I'm back in the U.P.

The morning is a tad bit crisp here in the L.P. am looking foward to the campfire and stars U.P. style.

By Safe Driver on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:44 am:

Let's not get into a discussion of male VS female driving- how about we just do our part to impress all young drivers that they are in control of a couple thousand pounds of metal and could do a lot of damage to themselves or others if they don't PAY ATTENTION TO THE DRIVING!!

By an Insurance adjuster on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:58 am:

ANYBODY driving while on a cell phone is much MORE likely to be in an accident than somebody not on a phone, while driving.
And I have not experianced the stats that you quote about teenage girls...
actually, while the girls MAY have a slightly less amount of accidents, the ones they do have, tend to be more severe.
Personally, my 17 years of experiance is that the numbers tend to be close to 50% for Male vs Female AND at fault & not at fault, with 2 or 3 % variance, month to month.

By lmm michigan on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:09 am:

To Dan Judnich: Welcome to the Club!!!!!

By Raven, downstate MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:11 am:

Ok, I give up. Why is A-1 on pasties a sin? I've tried catsup, gravy and A-1, and all make something tasty tastier. What's the problem?

By Alex Tiensivu, Georgia on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:15 am:

OH RAVEN! Have YOU opened a can of worms! I'm staying away from this conference today! (ROFL).

By Mel, Kansas on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:21 am:

I can vouch for the numbers and severity just out of my own experiences.

When my brother was a teenager, and driving my mother's car(s), first, he rear-ended someone while making a left turn (the person in front of him had just made the same turn, and was stopping again to make another left into a parking lot). Shortly thereafter, he knocked the driver's side mirror off backing into the garage. So there's one teenage boy, with two minor accidents. (He was at fault for both - not like the garage was going to get out of his way, eh?)

Then a few years later when I got my license, I was driving for the first time in bad conditions - hit a patch of black ice, and rolled the car onto its roof after a trip through the ditch. One teenage girl, one major accident. My fault for going too fast, but the weather played a big part too.

There are a lot of factors, but by and large, teenage boys are more likely to be showing off to their buddies, or trying to attract girls, so they do stupid things with their cars. Teenage girls are more cautious (at least they used to be, but that was before the advent of *everyone* having cell phones). Newer cars make people feel like they don't need to be in as much control too - anti-lock brakes, traction control, 4x4, etc... so you pay a little less attention sometimes when it's important to focus. That's why I really loved my first car - '84 Chevette, manual everything. I'd be cruising along through the snow and slush... past all the people in their new fancy cars who'd slid into the ditch because they were relying on technology to stop them, rather than common sense. :)

Have a good one, all.

By Raven, Downstate MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:28 am:

I don't think worms would be very tasty on a pasty. Is this a Finnish thing?

By Charlie at Pasty Central on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:34 am:

Here's another in our series of streaming video experiments: shots from Saturday's Tech vs. Red Wings contest at MTU. As always, your feedback is welcome. Today's clip is in Real Audio.

The opening scene is my wife Edie receiving an autograph from Mr. Hockey, Gordy Howe. Then some shots of the arena (we sat next to the pep band), concluding with the Husky fight song.

By maijaMI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:38 am:

There's a spider on the tech view cam. Looks like she's dancing on the canal.

By Joe Brighton Mi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:40 am:

Hello From Brighton

Great picture reminds me of a many hunting trips.


By yoopr on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:42 am:

the spider reminds me of one of them Godzilla type horror films from the 60's

By yoopr on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:44 am:

oh, No!
It's attacking the bridge....
ahhhhhh the humanity!

By yoopr on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:45 am:

By maijaMI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:46 am:

Check out Taka's pictures at today. Amazing pictures his father took in Taiwan. I still miss Taka's pictures here at Pasty.

By Roudy Mi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:54 am:

Chapter II, Section 1, Paragraph 1: Don't eat Pasties while driving!

By moi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:57 am:


Be warned...we have a lot of orange barrels around too.
Nice to get new roads, but it sure makes for slow traffic.
Enjoy your trip!

By maijaMI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:59 am:

Raven: one of the mysteries of life. Something I've never understood: spending time discussing who puts what on a pasty! :-)

By Rose on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 10:06 am:

I love the North Beach diet. Having pasties today. Gotta " fluff up" to keep warm this winter.

By Mel, MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 10:09 am:

2 weeks until I marry my Tech honey!! Yeah!!

I just set the church in Copper Harbor as my background. We are planning to renew our vows there on our 5 year anniversary. Plus have a weekend of golf, and merriment.

By Larry IN on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 10:20 am:

Insurance Adjuster I just called my insurance man and he said that teenage males pay a higher rate than females. In Indiana we are not a no-fault state so a person who is responsible for the collision must pay all costs. This may be different in Michigan and elsewhere. I do concur that driving while talking on a cellphone is distracting and would make any driver more accident prone. I still will stay with my point that teenage girls are not the worst drivers - which you do agree.

By THC $Bay on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 10:43 am:

Things that were NOT thought of as insurance high risk factors at one time or another . . .
1) Smoking
2) Obesity
3) 3 hurricanes in one year in FL
4) teenage female drivers

Let's face it. The insurance companies regularly are surprised because risk factors change.

btw. My observation about teenage female drivers was not a boy vs. girl thing. The girls were the worst drivers on the road over the weekend - period. Talk to your sons and daughters about highway safety issues.

By Tom on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 10:43 am:

Teenage girls are not the worst drivers. I just got back from a
weekend in Lansing. I found that the worst drivers were senior
citizens driving huge RVs. They seem to have a attitude, which
is a worse problem than the kids who are still learning.

By Mary Drew at Pasty Central on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 11:06 am:

There have been numerous questions as to the amount of color in the Keweenaw at the present time. This is a picture taken yesterday, (9/26/04), looking out over Tech, across to the Hancock side. Rick Anderson from Skypixs, took me up flying yesterday. I was surprised to see that the colors are a bit more changed in the Houghton/Hancock/airport areas than in the Lake Linden/Bootjack areas. We didn't get further north, but at least you have a first hand look, almost live!

Color in the Keweenaw
Thanks again Rick!!

cheryl mi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 11:09 am:

Here we go, I think the worst drivers are the senior citizens in their 70's or 80's. I know this from 2 bad experiences. My husband & I were coming back home from the Copper Country on US41 near Keweenaw Bay when an elderly lady just came onto the road __/____ without looking at all to see if a car was coming on US41. Rick had to swerve into the left lane , the truck appoaching us had to go to the shoulder of the road to avoid us. Meanwhile this lady just kept going her merry way.She stopped at Larry's grocery store in Baraga. We took down her license number and stopped at the State Police Post in L'Anse. The trooper was going to visit her & have her take a test for her future driving. Another time we were approaching the Holiday gas station in L'Anse when a elderly lady pulled right in front of us , turned right to go to the gas station maybe 10 feet ahead of us, my husband had to slam on his brakes to avoid hitting her. You should have seen her husband's eyes when we barely hit them. I don't mean to be coming down hard on senior citizens but those are my experiences. I'm approaching 58 years old & I hope somone pulls my license later in life(I hope)if I start to drive like that. I wouldn't want to maim or kill someone because I don't belong driving on the road.

By Flatlander in Chicago on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 11:41 am:


Same thing in Chicago, NEVER put catchup on a hot dog (in public) or you'll be drumed out of the corp. This is a mustard only town!

By me on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 11:52 am:

Read in the newspaper that a teenager driver alone in a car can be a problem. Add a teenage passenger, and you can lower the age of the driver by several years.

By Dr. Nat in Nevada on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 11:54 am:

Good morning everyone!
What interesting conversations this morning. Sinful things to put on a pasty, who are the worst drivers...
Here in Vegas, I would have to agree with Tom about the worst drivers. Of the accidents I've actually witnessed ocurring while driving home (yes, driving in Vegas is kind of like driving in a NASCAR race, you have to avoid accidents and debris on the road only we don't get the help of a spotter). Anyway, of the accidents I have watched happening on the way home, two of the three have been caused by seniors driving fifteen to twenty miles below the speed limit in the left or center lane of the freeway. The other accident involved an older man who cut across lanes, clipping the back end of a car in the lane he was moving into and sending it spinning into the concrete barrier at the side of the road.
I have nothing against older people (or teenagers or middle-aged people for that matter). I just think everyone should drive curteously and carefully.
It would also be nice if drivers wouldn't cut off university employees who just want to drive home after a long day at work. :)

By George on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 11:57 am:

Another bad group of drivers are our neighbors from Wisconsin.
I have discovered that they have no concept of road manners
and they also will make many mistakes out of ignorance. Maybe
they do not have a driver's education program in their state.

By Sue/Clare on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 11:59 am:

I have been in 2 head on crashes in my life ( I am in my forties) both drivers were teenagers so I have my own thoughts about who are the worst drivers!!!!

By Headin to the UP this Thursday... on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:03 pm:

I read an article a couple months ago that said that traditionally young women drivers had fewer serious accidents than their male counterparts, however, over the past five to ten years the accident rate, as well as the seriousness of the accidents amoung young women drivers and teenagers inparticular had seen such a dramatic that now it matches the accident rate of young men. The article said that over the next few years young women drivers can expect their insurance rates to rise to match those of young men drivers. In my opinion, everyone needs to pay more attention when they are driving.... and cell phones should not be used while you are operating a motor vehicle.

By Roudy Mi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:04 pm:

Curt drivers can scare the livin tar outa you. I'd go fer cautious aggressive before curt. Thank you please

By Steven in Waco Texas on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:15 pm:

Hello to Howie Lahti and Joan in Ahmeek from your nephew Steven in Texas. Would love to visit beautiful Michigan again soon or live there again.

By maijaMI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:18 pm:

My brother and I had to take away my Dad's driver's license. Luckily, he was an old Finn, authority-based, so he wouldn't take off without it. He did not understand and kept saying, "Why can't I drive?" Then he did take off. He drove into a guard rail I think on Pine Street on his way to Calumet. Thank goodness he was not hurt or did not hurt anyone. So we sold the car. He was angry, hurt, and since he did not really understand (already getting joulu) kept asking, "Where's the car?" It was horrible, horrible, HORRIBLE! But it is what we had to do, and I hope other care takers will have the courage to do the same. We had to think of the potential consequences which he, like a teenager, either did not comprehend or denied.

By maijaMI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:25 pm:


By Roudy Mi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:29 pm:


By SDC, Ferndale, MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:29 pm:

Looks like I join that Club too since its my milestone birthday today.... and we have some famous members too-- Ophra Winfrey, Ron Howard, John Travolta, just to name a few.....

By mike, champion on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:39 pm:

After readin all these here comments, I am beginnin to think the hunter in the above picture may be takin his road rage out on the honkers.

Who can do some research on how younguns on phones drivin around scarin the heck out of older folks are causin harm to dem geese?

By Kathy from Whitmore Lake/Cheboygan on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:40 pm:

Headn to the UP & others; I agree not paying attention is very risky; and that the only time that cell phones should be used is when you're parked. I'd also say to myself and my fellow drivers "calm down". I'm sure south-east Michigan is not as bad as Vegas, but it ain't the Seney stretch, either; there's usually a lot of heavy traffic during rush hour & heading up north Friday. And lots of bad tempers & near misses to go with it.

Anybody remember the old George Carlin definition: "anybody who drives slower than you is an IDIOT; anybody who drives faster than you is a MANIAC"

By Marsha, Genesee/Aura on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:44 pm:

Roudy: I inquired a few days ago as to whether you live in SE Michigan and didn't see a response. I assumed you were a year-round Keweenaw resident!

By Observant on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:53 pm:

Ok, here is my 2 cents....

Cent 1 People who drive and talk are vain and careless towards thier fellow man..I am not impressed that you have a friend you are talking to while you are laughing and using your hands to talk, nearly causing an accident, but you didn't know it because your too busy talking...

Cent 2, Putting on your makeup and plucking your eyebrows are meant to be done some other time, not when you are driving... duh!!!

By Roudy Mi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:58 pm:

I use to be. Across the bay from Aura.

By Kris, MTU '81, now a Troll on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:58 pm:

Your picture of the Tech is great but for the life of me I can't figure out what the building in the foreground is. I thinking of setting it for my desktop background. Can you please enlighten me? Thanks.

Mary says: As stated a couple posts below here, the building in question is the Houghton High School. It was an awesome flight with Rick, plus he gave me a couple picture taking lessons to boot! Funny how hard it is to get the perspective of an area from up in the signs up that high!! ;-)

By T, MN on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 01:01 pm:

This is an off the path question... I am getting married in Eagle Harbor w/ the reception in Copper Harbor next May. We are looking for a videographer and don't know if there are any that will do weddings.... any ideas???? I figured that if anyone knew, it would be someone on Pastycam!

By Yooper57 on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 01:07 pm:


I think the building in the lower left of the picture is Houghton High School. The football field with the track around it is on the north side of the school (Portage canal side).

By JJ MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 01:10 pm:

I wonder who has the highest insurance prems - young men or young ladies.

Anyway - stupidity doesn't know a gender, nor does mistakes. I've made my share. I don't like it when people run red lights - but have pushed a few "yellow"lights too far.

I was told by a police officer years ago, that speeding home (5 mile average trip) pushing lights, rolling through stop signs - gained about 5 minutes. His point wasn't forgotten - after I paid the ticket, I left 5 minutes earlier...

By Gary Singer Missouri on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 01:21 pm:

I will be up in Calumet Saturday. If you have
any unusal Copper or native Indian Copper
call 314 495 3227 Cel phone or 314 878

By Darrell,saint johns MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 01:25 pm:

Well on the subject of driving!Teemu and Eino were driving their pickup truck to Michigammee. When they got to the traffic light in Negaunee, Teemu drove right through the red light. Eino cried, "Holywha, Teemu, what are you doing?" Teemu kept driving and replied, "Don't worry, my brother taught me to drive". When they got to the light in Ishpeming, Teemu drove through another red light. Eino asked, "Why do you keep running red lights?". Teemu said, "Don't worry, my brother taught me to drive". When they got to the light in West Ishpeming, Teemu slammed on the brakes and screeched to a halt at a green light. Eino asked, "Teemu, why do you drive through red lights but stop at green lights?". Teemu replied, "My brother might be coming the other way".

By Yooper Willie on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 01:29 pm:

One of the things we love about being in Keweenaw County, is the lack of cell phone reception. Even the hard wire goes down in a blow. Must frustrate the heck out of the out of towners.

By Lori, WI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 01:35 pm:


Thanks for the clip from the hockey game. I played in the pep band when I attended Tech in the 80's. The national anthem in your clip seemed a tad slow to me. Mikey always told us that no one was at the game to hear us play the national anthem (no offense to the anthem), so we always played it fairly quickly. Whenever I am watching a national sporting event and some famous singer is performing a long, drawn out, dramatic version of the anthem, I always wonder, what would Mikey think?

By SarahK, MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 01:48 pm:

Speaking of driving...the only place I ever saw the following was in the UP. Here's goes the story:

Was about 20 years ago, we used to make an annual trek from Metro Detroit area to cabins along the Portage Canal, near Schmidts corners. This one year, after we crossed the bridge, we got a good nights rest at a cheap motel with the young kids and headed out first thing in the morning, heading north up the center of the UP (don't remember the highway number). But we were driving along for a long time behind this pick up with a covered back and as we approached a little town, the pickup just drove off the road, crossing the lane which could have had on going traffic and ran into a telephone pole, the back of his truck came off it's housing and he really cracked up his truck. My husband and I looked at each other thinking, oh my goodness, what was that about. The guy just dozed off I guess. Many people ran out to help him, so we continued on our journey. He wasn't young, so...can't say as there are any stats about Yoopers driving.

Can't wait till next Sunday, when I'll be back up there...I'll look at everybody and wonder "did I see them chatting on the Pasty Net?"

By keweenawgal on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 01:58 pm:

T,MN - I can think of one, not sure if he does weddings or not though, his name is Mike Edwards in Calumet! If not he might be able to help you to find one!

By video stuff on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 02:04 pm:

T, MN try the chamber of commerce also raedio station has a dj service and may be able to help

By T, MN on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 02:04 pm:

Actually, my Mom suggested Mike as well! I will have to have her call...

By Karla, MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 02:07 pm:

Charlie - The video/audio clipped worked very well. The Tech Toots (alumni) will like to hear the fight song and see it live.

By Jimmer in Houghton on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 02:25 pm:

The most dangerous drivers are the ones who get in the car, turn the key, and drive....
Yah, its any and all of us. We all need to just slow down, pay attention and realize that we are in charge of a very large machine that is capable of creating death and destruction in the blink of an eye.

By camwatcher on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 02:30 pm:

Have you seen the bumper sticker that reads: " How come I am the only person on the planet who knows how to drive? ". I am not sure if I should park next to him/her or not.....LOL

By Roudy Mi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 02:38 pm:

"We have met the enemy and he is us." Hee Hee. Anyone recognize the Quote?

By help on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 02:38 pm:

real player never works for me! what do i do to get it to work????

By Candy, CA on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 02:41 pm:

Or the one that says "Yes, in fact I DO own the whole road."

By VB, MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 02:43 pm:

All I have to say is this.... cellphones, radio, READING (I've seen it) and makeup are not things to be playing with while driving. Drive while you are driving! Thanks

By Candy, CA on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 02:44 pm:

Hey Roudy, Walt Kelly would be proud! That's my favorite Pogo-ism. We all seem to get a little myopic when it comes to bad habits...

By camwatcher on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 02:58 pm:

How about " Caution, I drive like you do "

By finnferrfunn on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 02:59 pm:

A woman and a man are involved in a car accident. Both of their cars are totally demolished but amazingly neither of them are hurt.
After they crawl out of their cars, the woman says, "So you're a man, that's interesting. I'm a woman. Wow, just look at our cars! There's nothing left, but fortunately we are unhurt. This must be a sign from God that we should meet and be friends and live together in peace for the rest of our days."
Flattered, the man replied, "Oh yes, I agree with you completely!"
This must be a sign from God!" The woman continued, "And look at this, here's another miracle. My car is completely demolished but this bottle of wine didn't break. Surely God wants us to drink this wine and celebrate our good fortune."
Then she hands the bottle to the man. The man nods his head in agreement, opens it and drinks half the bottle and then hands it back to the woman. The woman takes the bottle, immediately puts the cap back on, and hands it back to the man.
The man asks, "Aren't you having any?"

The woman replies, "No. I think I'll just wait for the police..."

By keweenawgal on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 03:10 pm:

Here is one, we were coming up Lake Linden Hill one day and we come up on this van and the lady was combing her hair as we went by, and then she passed us and she was brushing her teeth! I don't think that I ever seen anyone brush their teeth while driving!

By LIZ, Pinckney on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 03:12 pm:

Here's one. Behind me one morning was a girl who at 70+ mph in HEAVY traffic was curling her hair. Using both hands to wrap her hair around the curling iron. Obviously some type of curling iron that plugs into the cigarette lighter. Who's the genius that came up with that?

That was probably the scariest multitasking on the road I've seen because I thought she was going to rear end me.

But the lady with the eyelash curler ranks up there, too...

Why don't these people get up earlier?

By Roudy Mi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 03:24 pm:

We got bathroom ,kitchen,reading/living room on wheels reported here. Any other "room on wheels" stories to share? Careful now.

By Roudy Mi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 03:33 pm:

The wife and I always stop and smooch when we find a road we haven't traveled. Especially if it's a less traveled one. Needless to say when the Government halted new roads in the "bush" I was disappointed.Thank you Tree huggers.

By SarahK, MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 03:33 pm:

Oh Yeah......that one too...just ask the truckers.

By SarahK, MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 03:35 pm:

JJ...maybe you can link these people to your car race video.

By Fran,Ga on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 03:36 pm:

Happy Birthday SDC!!! Send me an e-mail-I lost all my addresses when my computer went down.

By Dr. Nat in Nevada on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 03:49 pm:

So I was driving from New Mexico to Houston, Texas to visit my folks. I think it was in Georgetown that I came upon a transit bus (one of the smaller ones, the same size that Houghton has). It proclaimed "Metro Safe Ride" but it was weaving all over the road. I eventually passed it and my husband (fiance at the time) looked over to see the driver... he was happily reading a magazine while driving the Safe Ride!
In Chicago about ten years ago, my ma saw a guy zipping along the Dan Ryan Expressway eating cereal-- milk and all.

By Driver on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 03:58 pm:

Look in your rear view mirror, Whos that tailgating? In most cases its a female driver that is late for work and thinks she may get there quicker by tailgating. Supposedly the speed limit wasnt made for them. What? 55 mph. Gotta pass.

By mom of both on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 04:07 pm:

Our son's insurance premium is more than our
daughters... statistically, a teenage boy driver is more
likely to be involved in a fatal crash... sorry, but it gets
my ruff up...

By IndyPrincess of IA. on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 04:12 pm:

When I went in to renew my drivers licence there was an elderly gent taking the eye exam. He flunked it three times and was still issued a new drivers licence! I could not believe it! My job is a courier driver, I witness elderly drivers on our interstate system driving 35 m.p.h. the minimum limit is 40 m.p.h. I guess I don't have to say now who I believe are some of the worst drivers! My husband is a general manager of a well established body shop here in town...he hears the elderly admit to "I guess I didn't see the other driver" more than he would like too!

By pfn on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 04:14 pm:

Click and Clack, the TapIt Brothers of Car Talk, are all
for banning cell phone use while driving!

By Roudy Mi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 04:16 pm:

State Policeman friend who patroled with a Harley told of chasing a young woman on I-696 who had passed him and didn't even slow down. He said she was going so fast he almost could catch her. The Harley was stretched to the limit. She was late!

By At the Illinois Sec. of State too on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 04:23 pm:

I too have witnessed seniors being given repeated chances to guess their eye exams; Do the testers identify too much, or what? I'm 63, and I say yank us all off the road when the time comes. I keep grousing at the "whiteheads" holding up traffic, and my wife has to remind me to look in the mirror .... It's not fair, she dyes her hair!

By JAD, Oskar, MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 04:37 pm:

No matter who is driving---when they put their hands on that steering wheel they are handling a lethal weapon.

By maijaMI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 04:55 pm:

My son had excellent drivers' education from the school district. (now no longer available) My daughter was already a very competent driver when she was 15 or so, and because of where her birthday fell, I decided to give her a private drivers' ed course so she could have her license right when she was 16 instead of waiting till nearly 17.
She said there was not really any instruction. They were given a "pre test" then reviewed the correct answers. That was the final exam. It was about as comprehensive as the little exam we used to have to take to renew our license. Nothing at all on safety/good driving habits.
I asked about the road experience. She said there were 5 of them in the car. They were on the road for 2 hours for 3 Saturday mornings. The majority of their "road experience" was going to Wendy's to get the instructor's lunch, going to the bank, etc. She said they spent the majority of their time sitting in parking lots. There was a girl in her group who had no experience whatsoever. She did not even know how to start a car when the course started. The girl passed the course.

By tremble on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 05:00 pm:

I saw a really bad accident in Canada a few years ago. On a highway, all going about 70, and a dog ran out onto the highway, the person slammed on thier brakes, and the car behind had to swerve to miss hitting them, and rolled several times before coming to a stop. I was horrified. I know that its just awful to hit an animal, but you have to be wise about the fact that they are just animals, and someone could have been killed because of that decision.

By Audrey, San Jose, CA on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 05:02 pm:

keweenawgal... I saw someone brushing their teeth too!

I also saw some guy shaving once!

It's a scary world out there on the roads!

By shelly on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 05:02 pm:

I drive alot for our church activites; back and forth to San Antonio. I told the lady whose van I drive, that if an animal comes onto the highway, I'm hitting it.

Not gonna risk all the kids lifes because an armidillo decides to cross the street.

By ankle expresser on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 05:06 pm:

I'm fortunate that I can walk to/from work most days.
Cell drivers scare the bees wax out of me when they are looking directly at me and still plow through the (no light)cross walks. I'm a safe walker and don't just willy nilly step into the street. But, come on, I want to decompress before getting home not visit the ER. Hang up the phone, please.

By M. Kahara, Long Beach, CA on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 05:14 pm:

Great posts today! LOL! Out here, you're thankful when you make it anywhere in one piece. The stories I could tell from my morning commute alone would have you all wondering why anyone would want to live here. We've seen it all. I think it's time we took a stronger interest in what the DMV considers a "qualified evaluator" and start improving public transportation so that the elderly(not meaning every elderly person), or anyone else who may not be a safe driver, would have a convenient alternative to turning the key. Have a great day, Drive Safe!

By danbury on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 05:16 pm:

Roudy, guess you wanted to say that he almost could not catch her - well, no wonder. Although many american cars used to be governed at rather low speeds (compared to motorcycles; my impression was of somewhere around 100 mph), a Harley is a truly slow bike - I do not understand why they use these charming fossiles for duties which might require a higher number on the speedo!

By danbury on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 05:23 pm:

Think that Canada animal accident would not have happened if the following driver had kept proper distance and attention. How about that one? I regularly see accidents on the street in front of my house, and every once in a while tailgating drivers try to make a case that it was the other's fault for hitting the brakes, not theirs not paying attention, tailgating etc.

By danbury on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 05:25 pm:

Sorry, but one more: How d'you know summer ends on

Discussions coming up! ;)

By tremble on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 05:29 pm:

I was there, saw it, traffic was coming towards us, and you try to maintain proper distance, pay attention, and not pile into the car in front of you at 70 when they stop in front of you. Good luck.

By Shiney side up and wheels on the pavement.. on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 05:43 pm:

A lot more people die swerving out of control to miss an animal than die from hitting one...

By ME on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 06:03 pm:

THC $Bay, Sanford Lake is on U.S. 10 and M-30. Not on I-75, it is quite a few miles from there. That has always been a beautiful in lower MI to look at leaves in the fall also!!

By Calumet homeowner on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 06:12 pm:

I traveld to Lansing this past weekend. The colors are the best
in the Gaylord/Grayling area right now. They seem to be slightly
ahead of the Copper Country for some reason.

By joe on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 06:17 pm:

Is the bridge lowered for the winter


By cm mi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 06:48 pm:

how about if you don't like my driving stay off the sidewalks :)

By Steve, Il. on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 06:49 pm:

Thanks everyone for scaring me. I leave SW suburban Chicago for the Keweenaw tomorrow. 8 hours plus behind the wheel. I agree, cell phones should be banned in moving vehicles. Why don't the insurance companies give breaks to those of us who haven't jumped on the cell phone bandwagon?Other than an emergency, I can't understand what is so darned important it can't wait until a land line is available. Just my 2 cents.

By kosk in Toronto on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 07:29 pm:

Hey Roudy,

Is your quote from Pogo? The adage is
certainly true.

By Ms. Katie on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 07:43 pm:

Whew, after a whole days' chatting, I feel this 2 cents is rather late. But here goes.To TCH $Bay...I agree about young female drivers. As for all the R.Vs and vehicles heading to the north, guess your economy doesn,t need our $$$, hey? Then don't advertise. If you don't want our dollars, don't expect me to send it unless I go with it :O) Tom...tsk-tsk-tsk...don't start on us senior R.V.r's! Don't you know many drivers of all ages don't HAVE accident, they just CAUSE them? To Kathy...I always did like George Carlin.

By Confused on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 07:54 pm:

Must be the same person that reported his steering wheel stolen, then discovered he was in the back seat parked at the corner of walk and wait. Makes me wonder if it is better to drive 35 in a 40 or 100 in a 55 like the teen that crashed was doing.

By sg/Milford on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 07:56 pm:

Yep, it was a teenage boy (senior in high school) that hit me head on. He was passing three cars coming downhill. I got off on the shoulder and he came right at me......hit me head on....Only took me two years to walk again! Yep, don't tell me about old folks. At least you can get around us and we don't try to drive all over the road. Yep, take the darn cell phones away too. New York banned them. This should be the case across the country. Yep, two years to walk again, it wasn't much fun.

By trish, wa on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:02 pm:

May you never drive faster than your guardian angel
can fly!

By one of unc's nephews on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:06 pm:


By Therese from just below the bridge on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:08 pm:

I saw an accident 30 yrs ago in Detroit at rush hour, on I-75 southbound at the I-94 exchange. A car in the right-exit-only lane plowed into the line of stopped cars in front of him at 70 mph. The carnage was unbelieveable. A moment's inattention, and who knows how many were hurt?

On a lighter note, a state trooper pulled over an elderly woman who was driving on US-31 north of Petoskey. She was doing about 30 in a 55 zone and the traffic was piled up behind her.

When he explained that she was going too slow, she said, "But officer, I was just going the speed limit. The signs all say 31!"

He patiently explained that that was the highway number, US-31, not the speed limit. She thanked him for setting her straight. Then he looked at the ladies in the back seat; they were all white as a sheet and trembling. He said, "Ma'am, are your friends all right? They seem a little shaken up."

"Oh, yes, officer, they'll be fine. We just turned off of M-119!"

By Margaret, Amarillo TX on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:15 pm:

I love today's pictures. Thanks. I was up way too early to be earlybird today and now it's time for bed.

By CP, Commerce Twp. MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:17 pm:

Great pic today, wish I was up there walkin in the woods with my dog, and Nate.

By Only human, GR MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:24 pm:

I have two college students who scared me to death while they were learning to drive, but the most frightning driver is my mother-in-law. I will not ride with her and when I suggested to my father-in-law that she was not safe I was told to mind my own business. My husband has also tried. And my husband also totaled one car. Anyone can be a reckless or bad driver. All of us have made bad discions or miss judgments. If we follow all of your logic none of us would drive.

By Bthecute1, San Jose on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:26 pm:

Because I go to school at the same time as all the children, driving in bumper to bumper traffic for 24 miles, I find that mothers taking their children to school are the worst. I think ...because the kids are driving them crazy as they are driving, some hitting their kids, some screaming at the kids, some reaching in the back seat, trying to settle some dispute with a cell phone in one hand and reaching with the other, trying to get some kind of control. Everyone drives with a cell phone glued to the side of their head. Men are shaving, women putting on their makeup, some actually reading the paper and driving at the same time. life....isn't it great?

By Madison Heights, Mi on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:50 pm:

just another here for the list... I witnessed a male driver eating a bowl of rice with chop sticks in Birmingham, MI --- this was in the dead of winter in 2000.

By Scott, Wi. on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:57 pm:

Being from Wisconsin I agree, the worst
drivers are here. I'm not pandering either.
I was just AMAZED when I was in Michigan
driving and nobody was pushing me for driving
55mph. You could enjoy the views without somebody
doing the power pass because you were driving
the speed limit. And then try out the interstate!
The avearge speeds are about 75-80mph. No joking!
I've taken to secondary roads due to the freedom
to drive civil and enjoy the view. And I'm not
a oldster talking about those young folks either.

I'm 45years old......

I can drive 70mph on the interstate but I have
no real need to push 80mph plus...

Everybody is talking about stress today.
Most of which is self manufactured I say.

In this hurry up world folks need to THINK
and just slow down.

Just thoughts, I may be wrong?

By don on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:05 pm:

Hi /image

By don on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:07 pm:

Hi /"image"

By PFD, MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:13 pm:

We, too, traveled back to the UP from the Lake Orion area on Saturday. The colors are much prettier in the Grayling/Gaylord area then here in Houghton/Hancock. I also agree that cell phones should be banned while driving. They are a hazzard no matter who is using them.

By SarahK, MI on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:15 pm:

I guess sometime we need to talk about stress to realize how much we actually deal with it on a daily basis. Then maybe we can let it go. Here's to a relaxing conversation tomorrow.

By camwatcher on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:25 pm:

Do we even want to talk about what really fries me? Folks who drive the same way in ice and snow as they do on dry pavemnet. eg: Stomping on the brakes 6 feet from the stop sign and then being angry because they slid through the intersection. No clue that there are differnet driving tecniques for winter !!??

By Greg, Hancock on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:38 pm:

Hey, does anyone know what happened on the bridge this
evening? It took hours to get from Tech to Hancock! Worst traffic
jam I've seen since I moved here...

By Chani, PA on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 09:41 pm:

Just want to add that some states/areas have already banned cell phone use while driving (although, most do allow hands-free cell phone units - such as the ear and mouthpiece headset attachment for phones - while driving). Just across the river in New Jersey, hand-held cell phones while driving are banned. It is the same way in Westchester County, New York.

I hate to categorize who is the worst driver... it should be based on the person, not the age/gender group!

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