Sep 22-04

Past-E-Mail: Cam Notes - 2004: Sep: Sep 22-04
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Photo by Charlie Hopper

By
Charlie Hopper, Eagle River, MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 07:58 am:

Seems like only a couple of weeks ago it was the first day of summer, and you'll recall we said goodbye to our furry companion "Casey" after 15 years. She appeared in many of the early Pasty Cam photos, and we've missed having her around the house these past 3 months. Well, it was also a couple of weeks ago we visited the animal shelter and brought home a friendly puppy named "Buddy", who had been picked up wandering somewhere in Traprock Valley, looking for a new home. Buddy has been been helping Edie get things ready for his first winter here in Eagle River (which will probably arrive in a couple of weeks). That's Lake Superior in the distance in today's photo.

Over the years, Pasty Central's 'daily glimpse of life in the U.P.' has frequently peeked into our lives (the Hopper family), watching our kids grow up and get married, and visiting places we love, through the artistry of many Pasty Cam guest photographers. For some time we've been considering expanding the format to include other media, namely audio and video. We've featured a couple of audio presentations (here's an example), and recently we've been streaming Copper Country sporting events. But this morning, here's a 'first' on the Pasty Cam, with streaming video of Buddy doing a couple of his dog tricks (happy dance and roll-over), down at the dunes behind our home.

Click Here if you have Windows Media Player, for our first excursion into Pasty-TV. I'll be interested to know if anybody else can get this to work :o)


By Arice on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:00 am:

Morning
First Post


By yooper at college on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:01 am:

Fresh out of pt, mornin from grand forks, close to early bird today....


By smf in troll land on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:01 am:

Good morning everyone.


By Erin, MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:02 am:

Good morning from Novi.


By Lori... com.twp on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:06 am:

and yes, I saw Buddy's happy rolling over dance.


By moi on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:06 am:

The video worked fine for me! A nice new option!


By Darrell, Fisher, IL on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:08 am:

The video worked fine on my Windows Media Player. Good job.


By Ellen, Sunrise side on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:12 am:

Another Glorious Day on the Sunrise side. Just told my boss yeaterday of my retirement plans on Oct 14th. Yesterday was hubby's birthday and 35 years ago I quit smoking on his day. Figured it would be a Great day for my announcement!!! Everyone have a great first day of Autumn, (I believe you can stand an egg on end today also)


By Jo Ann, Hancock on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:13 am:

what a cutie is Buddy. He is loved and loves you Charlie and Edie lucky all of you....yes i saw his rolling over dance...:-)


By Skylar in Wi on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:13 am:

Good morning. Yep, worked for me. Later, Skylar


By Joe on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:14 am:

Good Morning from Brighton

The video played great !!! nice addition hope to see more .And would also like to see more of the everyday life of the residents in the upper.

Joe


By Otter Lake Mike, Wayne,Mi. on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:19 am:

Good Morning! Great video!!


By anita, mi on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:22 am:

morning all. video worked. have a great day.


By Lorelei, MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:22 am:

Charlie,
Worked great. Wow, this sure is a nice feature.
Keep up the great work. So many people depend on this great website to start their day, carry them through their day and end it as well. I know I do.


By James - Il on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:28 am:

Good morning everyone. We are back from our stay in the U.P. for the first time in 22 years. What great weather we had for our visit in Eagle Harbor. There were lots of changes in the Houghton / Hancock area and a few surprises at things that were still around. There were not as many differences further north though. Some things will never change. We saw some folks we haven't seen in all though's years and yes we were all older looking but after living in Eagle River for so long you still remember what we all look like. And of course a good many of the people we knew in town have passed on now. I did see my best friends new place, and yes I miss you lots Tom da tuna. The man that owns your house now let me walk around the place and for that I am thankful. I'll never forget you. You left us to soon. So anyway we had a great time and can't wait for the next trip.

Oh, I almost forgot, the Pasty - TV worked fine for me. Thanks for the great web site. Wish I could have met you both.


By glojolo, mi. on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:32 am:

Loved Buddy's rollover performance. It's wonderful how an animal will do something for a people he loves.
Your short video came through real fine. I hope you will keep us up on all the things your sweet dog learns to do.


By maijaMI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:32 am:

Ellen: Congratulations on your retirement. You will love it! I just retired in June and can't believe how great it is. I thought I'd miss my job as middle-school counselor and haven't. I thought time would slow down, and it's going faster!! Thought I might feel bored and restless at times. NO WAY! Enjoy your well-earned freedom!


By Karla, MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:35 am:

Charlie, what a great idea, the video worked great for me. Buddy knows he has a good home if he's happy-dancing and rolling over after just a couple of weeks.

Its true, you can stand an egg on one end today. It is Equinox at 12:30 p.m. today. One year my dad had a whole dozen on one end, that was an awesome pic. I wish I could post it here but its home on the fridge. I managed to get one egg to stand up. If you want to try it, place the egg on one end and loosely hold your fingers over it to keep it upright, it might take a little time, but then suddenly, the egg will stand on its own. You will feel it happen.

Have a great day!


By glojolo, mi. on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:37 am:

P.S. I wish I could find someone who would like to tell me about Billy Brinkman. I understand he was Superintendent of Schools in Redridge, Beacon Hill and Freda many, many years ago. Like say, 30's - maybe 40's. Anyone know?


By GW on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:44 am:

Yes the video worked just fine... May I also add that there is nothing like the love of a good dog...


By sue-sue loveland, oh on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:52 am:

Video worked for me also and I really enjoyed it. We adopted a stray dog and few years ago and I named him Waymore because he way more than I wanted and way more than I need. But my husband was happier than he was on our wedding day. He is a good dog but too smart for his own good. But boy is he ever faithful and loyal.

Please send more videos of everyday life on the UP. Makes me feel a little closer.


By Missin' the UP from NJ on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:55 am:

Charlie, Great video- What a PERFECTLY HAPPY way to start my morning! THANK YOU! Loved it!


By Roudy Mi on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:56 am:

I see a little Jacobsville sandstone in that foundation. You have something in common with the Waldorf Astoria.


By Gus LL on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:56 am:

video works fine, Very nice.


By maijaMI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:59 am:

My egg wouldn't stand on end, so I ate it.


By Leslie at the Northern Lights Lodge - Cadillac, MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:07 am:

Yes, the video and the audio both worked for me... I LIKE it! More amazing possiblities for Pasty.com/ Pasty Central, Still Waters and the whole UP!


By Mary Ann, WY on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:13 am:

Really enjoyed the video of Buddy today. Now we can look forward to more photos of Buddy. What a nice yard and view of the lake you have. I miss the neighborhoods in the UP. Have a nice day!


By AO, MN on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:20 am:

The egg story is a myth!! If you try hard enough on any day of the year you will be able to stand an egg on it's end. I recently thought this was true as well until I did some research about it. Sorry...


By Becky in Orlando on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:30 am:

Charlie - Awesome video of the new pooch. It's amazing how such creatures just seem to make life that much better!


By elm on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:37 am:

Nice video. Worked fine.


By the Clockwatcher's on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:38 am:

Audry,

Must be the season, my wife and I are retiring to the "sunrise side" on October 1st.

We should have a "par-tee"


By elm on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:38 am:

Happy Birthday Patti in TN.


By Mr. Bill on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:43 am:

maijaMI

As a Finnish friend stated with regards to retirement "only boring people get bored", to which I add "I'd rather wear out, than rust out"


By Candy, CA on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:50 am:

G'morning from still dark California. Buddy certainly looked proud of himself! Nice to be able to hear you and Edie, too, Charlie. Yesterday was Doc and Cy Meier's 58th anniversary, and today is Cy's birthday (not telling which one!). Happy day to you, Mom, in AZ!


By Leslie, TX on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:50 am:

Nice video, but there is one bug - it works fine in Internet Explorer, but you get a screen full of nonsense characters if you click the link using Netscape.


By Jeff M, FL on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:52 am:

It's the first day of Autumn and a look at the Bridge Cam reveals a number of trees showing red and gold. Sorry to see Summer going already.
But the Copper Country is not alone ... down here in central Florida the Sycamore leaves are starting to turn brown and some unknown tree in the Oak family that's in my yard is dropping yellow leaves already. Guess it has as much to do with available sunlight as it does with temperature. It doesn't start to get cold here (under 45) until Christmas!
Charlie, your video came through very easily.


By Mel Westland, MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:57 am:

In 2.5 weeks, I will marry my Techie. Yeah.

We are already planning to renew our vows in the UP at the Keweenaw Mountain Lodge for our 5 year anniversary. We definitely would have done it there the first time except the family thought it was a little far to travel.

Da Up is Da best.


By Secret Squirrell on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:02 am:

Regarding the egg-balancing myth...

http://www.snopes.com/science/equinox.htm

Ah, well, it makes for an interesting way to pass the time, right?

;)


By Therese from just below the bridge on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:03 am:

Ellen on the Sunrise Side: congratulations on giving up smoking 35 years ago so you could LIVE till retirement! What a great birthday gift you gave your husband! I pray you both enjoy many happy and healthy years together!


By Joanne White Lk on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:04 am:

Mike Its time you show toby (yorkie) wind surfing .


By Rich, Toledo, Ohio on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:21 am:

Hope to see some more video of the "Big Lake" and short clips of life in the UP in the near future. I wish you could add a scratch and sniff feature to these pc's! Love the website. Keep up the great work. You are appreciated by many.


By thumbs down on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:22 am:

Good Morning-

I hope I will not offend anyone, however, I must ask...had anyone seen the movie Escanaba in da Moonlight? I tried to watch it last night, and had to turn it off because it was so DUMB! I thought it was gonna be a funny movie, with some neat U.P. ways...I was just wondering if someone can tell me what the deal with the movie was????


By Karla, MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:24 am:

Awww, come on you researchers, we all don't believe in Santa either, yet would you tell a five year old he doesn't exist? I like to believe there's something magical about eggs standing on end during Equinox, its something I've done with my dad for years.

Happy Anniversary to Cy & Doc Meier and Happy Birthday to Cy.


By CJ in MN on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:24 am:

I couldn't get the audio but the video was fine!


By Phyllis , Toledo, OH on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:27 am:

The video came thru fine and Buddy looks like a winner. Love the view of the Big Lake from the end of the road, but then any view of Superior is great.


By Rose on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:29 am:

thumbs down: I am sorry I have to agree. Also found it distracting that it (Escanaba in da Moonlight) was obviously filmed over a long period of time as the snow is deep in one scene and only inches deep in the next. Plotless and dull.


By Rose on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:37 am:

The video of Buddy is great! Have a big smile from that.
Do you take requests? How about a video of waves crashing on the Superior shore for all the homesick folks to soothe their souls with? Just play it over and over until you feel calm....Ahhh..........


By shelly/Yankee in Texas on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:44 am:

Morning from Houston!


By JoAnne Stefanac, Port Orchard, WA on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:44 am:

Just wish there was a video presentation to go along with the IT Summit 2000 audio presentation you linked above. Very interesting to listen to but would LOVE to see it!! Can't get the jokes with just the audio version, Charlie! And, yes, was able to see the happy dog dance as well! Fun stuff.


By bob,maryland on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:44 am:

Is there anyone here who goes to OALC church?


By Roudy Mi on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:06 am:

Get to work!


By P.Goniea; Dbn,Mi. on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:10 am:

Charlie the audio presentation is and was a real
education of how things got started here at Pasty
central well worth the time. Keep up the good work
with Pasty & Still Water.


By heidabuntu, IL on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:11 am:

no bob, but i go to the FALC church


By bob,maryland on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:16 am:

Please see our Acceptable Use Policy regarding chats.


By heidabuntu, IL on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:19 am:

Please see our Acceptable Use Policy regarding chats.


By danbury on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:25 am:

Bon appetit, maija!
Also thnx to you and the Danbury Helper (:)) for yesterday's posts - couldn't get it in then!


By shelly on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:34 am:

Roudy! You get to work! :)


By bob,maryland on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:39 am:

no probably only 400 or so . Big congregation in WA state


By Dr. Nat in Nevada on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:40 am:

Good Morning from Vegas!


By jb mi on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 12:04 pm:

hello fishy, if you see this today, let me know.
hello to everyone else ;]


By Candy, CA on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 12:09 pm:

I posted this on yesterday's page, but don't know if Son of a Yooper in Germany will see it, so here it is again:
Check out the Michigan Tech alumni website (
http://www.mtu.edu/alumni/) for jobs, and look at the hospital websites, too -- IT guys are needed everywhere. Marquette General Hospital might be your best bet healthcare wise, but Iron Mountain is also a possibility. Northern Michigan University (http://www.nmu.edu/) might also help. Don't forget monster.com, and check out dice.com for other tech jobs.


By Audrey, San Jose, CA on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 12:19 pm:

Good morning from warm and sunny San Jose! The video worked great and so much fun to see! What a nice way to start my work day today.


By Helen on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 12:31 pm:

Charlie,
The video worked fine for me!! Buddy is a cute dog!! I have two of my own and I wouldn't trade them for anything!!


By Mikola, Michigan on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 12:31 pm:

I just tried the egg at 12:30 PM. Didn't work. So I tried my pasty. It didn't either. Till I took a bite out of it, then it stood up great. Just a helpfull hint for yoose.


By NKR Mishawaka IN on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 12:37 pm:

Good morning from Mishawaka IN. Loved the streaming video and audio. I think its a great addition. Have a great day everyone.


By cj Milford/Hancock on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 12:40 pm:

What's up you crazy Mascot's. Have you tried the head cheese from Vollwerth's?

Joanne keep packing - 2 boxes a day isn't going to get you to Edwards by Spring.


By kc, MN on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 01:15 pm:

Funny comments today. The video worked great; would be a great addition to the site. I'm going to have to try and teach my dog that trick(s).


By Chris, IL on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 01:52 pm:

Charlie and Edie,
Thank you for adopting a homeless animal. They love us all the more for rescuing them. Buddy's tricks were great! We adopted our 4 cats over the past 4 years. Believe or not each one has his/her own trick - come when called, catch bugs on "bug!" command, come to get the fresh new ring off the milk bottle, talk to me in meowrrr-talk.

I, too, would love to see a video of the waves. Miss them terribly. I could not get the .ram audio to play because I don't have Real Player.

When will the calendar be put on sale?


By Mike M., Mi on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:01 pm:

Joanne, Toby will post a Surfing photo. Today He's busy packing for his trip this weekend. Dog sweater and chew toy are tops on his trip list.


By Barry Seymour, Manhattan Beach, CA on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:02 pm:

I loved the name Waymore! LOL!

Also, seconds on what Chris said about adopting a homeless animal. You're twice blessed!


By Chris, IL on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:04 pm:

I so LOVE this site. Thanks, Charlie, for starting it. I have been with you since the beginning.


By cj Milford/Hancock on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:06 pm:

Mike M. no go on the head cheese bit?


By Thad on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:08 pm:

Hey bob,maryland and heidabuntu, IL

How's about taking your chit-chat to private email, please. Thanks.

Love the video Charley, and the other discussion.

Editor's note: Thanks for putting it so politely Thad. If one leaves their email address, conversations not pertaining to the pictures or discussion can be continued in that forum!


By Mike M., Mi on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:11 pm:

CJ, Are you kidding??????? Head cheese is the perfect food. Well it will be the perfect food as soon as it can be legally called a food product.

Head Cheese Rules!!!!


By fishy mi on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:14 pm:

jb i saw your message real funny hahahaha


By cj Milford/Hancock on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:18 pm:

Mike M. what was the guy's name you came acrossed over near Vollwerth's?


By maijaMI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:29 pm:

Thanks Danbury and Mr. Bill.

Escanaba in da Moonlight is totally stupid! (and not funny. I can handle stupid--like Tom Hanks in Lady Killers is a very stupid premise, but really excellently done) "Escanaba" is as close to authentic as a gerbil trying to be a lion.

You pasty guys oughta be stand-up comedians: stand up eggs and pasties indeed!


By Hilary, Angry Pop Culture Consumer on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:30 pm:

Escanaba in Da Moonlight did not do it for me, either. I guess the fact that I am a UP native and an anthropologist/folklorist makes me really question how people who are not from the UP choose to represent us. The dialect was off (I don't know anyone, at least in my neck of hte woods, who says "ting" for "thing".) and the stereotypical images of the super backwoods guy and the Indian maiden wife were just weak fallbacks. And the tripped out scene with the mystical were-deer or whatever it was...AGH! (Let me state here that I saw this film about 18 months ago and I'm still this irritated). I wish an actual UP filmmaker would make a popular movie about our ways of life without falling back on passé images through a metropolitan, downstate slant. They are not us. Jeff Daniels wouldn't last 6 seconds in the Cliffview.


By thumbs down on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:39 pm:

I totally did not understand this movie. I kept telling myself, "it will get better"; but no. I didn't understand the lights and the spasms that Jeff Daniels went into when they visited him at night. It was so strangely boring that I just had to turn it off, and I have never done that to any movie other than Teletubbies!


By Jim on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:52 pm:

YES! YES! YES!
Good news,
The bank has approved my loan.
There will be a new White House Inn
Thanks to all my supports
Jim


By M. Kahara - Long Beach,CA on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:53 pm:

The video works great! What a wonderful dog! I'm happy you looked to the shelter and saved such a talented pup! I hope you have many happy times together! Very hot in CA and only getting hotter as usual. What I wouldn't give to have the fresh, cool,crisp air from Superior blowing in my face. Have a great day!


By Matt, Hartland MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:55 pm:

I’d like to make a shout out to all my peeps, Joanne, CJ, Mike M, and George Williams. Hey hello to all you Yoopers!


By Roudy Mi on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:56 pm:

I found I could stand up without falling over at 12:30 today!


By Mary Lou on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 02:59 pm:

Hi from Escanaba..... where I watched parts of the film being made....and I agree it was awful!!...I think it is the dumbest film I ever saw!!!......(and I have been around a long time).. I understand Jeff Daniels is married to a Marquette girl........wonder if she thought it made sense......??


By desert rat on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:03 pm:

You thought Escanaba in da Moonlight was bad,did you see Super Sucker? Another J. Daniels original filmed in Jackson, MI.


By shelly on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:04 pm:

Roudy! After cleaning my sons gym duffle bag, I found socks that could stand up on thier own yesterday! Pew!


By Jeff Daniels on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:07 pm:

Ladies, ladies...calm down and give the auteur a break, eh?
Escanaba In Da Moonlight was definitely NOT a chick film, OK, I get it.
And without a little metropolitan audience appeal d'ya t'ink it would've ever financially flown?
Not a chance fer sure now you betcha!
And BTW, I did once frequent the Cliffview (back when it really meant something to poke one's pasty white neck in dere) and I lasted more than long enough to chase down my Bosch beer with a shot of Royal Canadian rotgut.
GO COPPER KINGS!

bucks

By shelly/Yankee in Texas on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:08 pm:

Has anyone seen the "Red/Green Show" on PBS? I think they are hilarious. 1001 ways to use duct tape is so entertaining as well as educational.

Duct Tape use #5

Solve that age old problem between the sexes in the bathroom! DUCT TAPE THE LID DOWN!


By cm mi on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:08 pm:

way to go jim can't wait for the new white house so glad you are going to rebuild i think everyone who has been to the old one will agree thank you for rebuilding


By ha ha ha on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:09 pm:

Jeff. (yeah right)

You should stick to roles like Dumb and Dumber...wait...Escanaba in da Moonlight was DUMBEST!


By Marsha,Genesee/Aura on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:15 pm:

Is Jeff Elvira's brother?


By Ron, Michigan on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:16 pm:

Jim, Congrats on the bank appoving your loan. Mohawk can't be the same without the White House!!!


By Matt, Hartland MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:21 pm:

Jeff I have to apologize last year I saw you at a Michigan hockey game and got so scared I ran away like a frightened wombat. What I wanted to say was, “Dumb and Dumber ruled!”


By elm on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:25 pm:

Congratulations Jim on the loan approval for the White House. Sure will be good to see it going again.


By Jimmer on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:32 pm:

what others thought of Escanaba in da Moonlight
http://www.bigscreen.com/ReaderReview.php?movie=29832


By jimmer on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:39 pm:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0180679/usercomments even more reviews on dat movie.


By how do you tuna piano? on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:39 pm:

Sorry, Charlie, I couldn't get the video to work, network timed out or something like that. BUT keep it up, might actually get a better computer in the future.
Today's pic....great view of the lake, hey?


By Roudy Mi on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:42 pm:

Socks standing alone Ok. Watch it if they start to move.
"Was in darkest Africaaa the other dayyyy and a Furry Nosed Wombat charrrged. Luckily I had my credit carrrd". W.C.Fields


By Susan, Rendon, Tx on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:52 pm:

To son of a yooper in germany: I am from Hurley, Wi originnaly and I read the Ironwood Daily Globe every day, found this picture today. Hope I can get it on here, I copied and will paste it. We also went to Sunday Lake.

Photos from Home


LeeAnn Heikkila/Daily Globe

Sunday Lake's southwest side is ready for fall colors and it's about that time. Autumn officially began at 11:30 a.m. Sept. 22.
. Guess the pic didn't make it, here's the web address.
http://www.ironwoodglobe.com/

Loved the video.


By Joanne White Lk on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:58 pm:

Jeff Danials
The play was good,movie not so good. One ting I learn in life you can,t please everyone eh.


By Liz, Idaho on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 04:18 pm:

Jim,
Thanks for your determination to rebuild the White House and thanks to the banker who had the foresight to see future success!


By Dr. Nat in Nevada on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 04:24 pm:

Shelly:
I happen to enjoy the Red Green show.
Remember the TV show "MacGyver" with the guy who always used duct tape to fix things. Is Red Green what happened to MacGyver when he got older and eccentric?


By Robert, CO on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 04:36 pm:

Re: Escanaba In Da Moonlight. Before I saw the movie, I was told many times by many different people that the play was much better and they didn't feel it translated well to film. I kept that in mind while I watched the DVD, and I though it was an OK movie, I definately see how the play would be much more fun.


By Steve in South Bend on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 04:39 pm:

Congrats to Jim, I'm going to tell my wife to plan a vacation to the UP when the grand opening happens.


By bob on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 05:04 pm:

Son of a yooper in Germany,

Please contact me, my son will be goint
to UNIV Stutgart for start of next summer
for the study abroad program.

Bobg@mtu.edu


By shelly on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 05:12 pm:

The guys on the red green show are so funny. Men in flannel are just the best. :) I always thought I would grow up and marry a man that looked just like my Daddy. Red/black checked hunting jacket, nice full beard, and driving a pick up truck..... I'm still looking....


By kathyr, IN on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 05:16 pm:

Yeah Shelly, me too


By beermeister... on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 05:23 pm:

Roudy, If you could stand up at 12:30 without falling over then you need several more beers...


By Dr. Nat in Nevada on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 05:30 pm:

Sometimes I think I did marry Red Green. He wears lots of flannel (well, he did up north, anyway), has a nice beard, comes up with "innovative" ways of fixing things, seems to think that the solution to every problem is duct tape...
But he is a sweetie ;)


By Man-in-Flannel... on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 05:31 pm:

The Red Green Show Rocks! It is a very practical handyman's show... sort of like Tool Time... I like the time he took a window air conditioner from an old motel and put it in his beater cadillac... Now that was very resourceful...


By Carole on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 05:39 pm:

Jim, good to hear that the White House will be rebuilt. I am sure there will be more patrons to see what the new place looks like, in addition to enjoying the good food.


By oops on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 05:51 pm:

And I am now wondering, is Dr. Nat a female? I always thought your gender to be male....


By shelly on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 05:55 pm:

Well, I hate to retreat from this stimulating conversation, but I must brave the wilds of Houston Traffic.

See ya 2morrow!


By Greta, Milw on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 06:04 pm:

Hey now, I really enjoyed "Escanaba in Da Moonlight". Like most movies, it is an escape from reality. This was not meant to be a documentary on UP life. A story is just a story - not an eye witness news flash. I laughed myself sillier than usual. And yes, I also like to watch "The Red Green Show". We used to call duct tape "300-mph tape". If I can't use my screwdriver or hammer, then out comes the tape!


By Melissa, Lansing, MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 06:06 pm:

The video worked fine...cute dog!

Congrats on the bank loan, looking forward to seeing a new White House in the future.

Joanne from White Lake, I agree. The play was good, movie not so good.


By Dr. Nat in Nevada on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 06:17 pm:

Oops:
Yes, I am female. Anything in particular make you think I was a guy? I do like drinking beer, watching football (and hockey), and going hunting... :)


By Candy, CA, also from da Tech on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 06:17 pm:

Dr. Nat is married to Capt. Paul, who obviously learned his duct (or duck) tape skills at da Tech. Beginning duct tape was taught as part of the first day of calc... then the advanced stuff came from Doc Berry.


By RCM on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 06:21 pm:

Doc Berry

Chemistry 101 Lecture

A MTU legend and a freshman's nightmare

RIP


By E.H., Hubbell, MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 06:21 pm:

Loved the video. Came in fine. Brings back fond memories of labs we once had, Shadow & Arrow. Such wonderful, loving companions. Enjoy your new Buddy!


By sblazek, Oconomowoc on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 06:22 pm:

Congrats on the Whitehouse loan. Will look
foreward to being there when you open. I think
there were a lot of prayers coming your way
from the good UP people there and about.

My husband is a master taper. He is a binder
operator(books) and brings the role ends of
tape home. Once I caught my Mom laughing,
when she left and when I checked out our
door he did a repair on the dumb lock with
tape. The worst was when he taped our two
year olds popsicle together. What a person
won't do for his kids heh?


By Tech toot on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 06:22 pm:

proficiencies...even the word brings on cold sweats...but you learned, even against your will!


By SarahK,, MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 06:23 pm:

So Charlie...did you get a new van yet from that talk you gave?

SarahK,

I gave that talk for numerous groups and organizations, mostly in downstate Michigan, always challenging corporate people to help us get a new van. But in the end, visitors to Pasty Central helped make the new van a reality, with thousands of dollars in individual donations resulting in the purchase in May of 2003.

New van
Still Waters Assisted Living Community still faces some incredible challenges, for example, rising insurance costs, and expensive new requirements imposed by the State of Michigan, with little additional funding. Nursing homes receive more than 15 times in state assistance, compared to Homes for the Aged, yet HFA's are required to provide almost the same level of care at capped rates for low income individuals.

All of these factors actually threaten the future of Homes for the Aged, not just in Calumet, but everywhere in the state. The support which Still Waters has received from the Pasty project has been vital to the ongoing operation of the Home.

By downstate don on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 06:45 pm:

Jim; Congratulations on the loan approval. Guess
we'll have another good place to hang out at when
we visit the U.P. Hopefully my cousin Linda will
be working there again.


By Therese from just below the bridge on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 06:56 pm:

I have some questions for Dr Nat or Cap Paul, or any other geologist out there. In the Keweenaw formation which is, if I have my story right, 1.1 billion-year-old sandstone, what are all the oval river-washed stones? Are they basalt? Little meteorites? Dinosaur gallstones? (Oh wait, there werent any dinosaurs yet, or anything else for that matter.) How old are they, and where did they come from to get buried in sand in a river? How wide was that river? Or were they washed into a shallow sea?

Come to think of it, where did the sand come from and what was it made of? Is it iron-rich quartz? And how did the sandstone keep from being sucked down and metamorphosed for over a billion years? Is it the oldest sedimentary rock on earth? (My grandpa was once the oldest sedentary man on earth, but that's another story.)

I ask because I am holding a chunk of the stuff gathered last weekend near Copper Harbor. And you know what makes me feel really weird? To loosen a stone and finally pull it free from its hollow in the sandstone, and realize that, for the first time in over a billion years, this stone is touched by sunlight. It's been in the dark for an unimaginable stretch of time, until I pull it out and hold it in my hand. When light last hit this stone, there was no life on earth, no amoebas, no trilobites, no worms, no insurance salemen, or any other lower life forms. I can't even imagine what this area looked like a billion years ago.


By I'M A MAN BUT I CAN CHANGE IF I HAVE TO ..I GUESS on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 07:15 pm:

http://redgreen.com/ RED RULES..


By Dr. Nat in Nevada on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 07:40 pm:

Therese:
The nice round rocks you picked up near Copper Harbor most likely come from a rock formation known as the Copper Harbor Conglomerate. Long, long ago, the Keweenaw Peninsula was part of what is known as the Midcontinent Rift System, which was basically a big crack in the earth where the continent was splitting apart. On the sides of this big crack in the earth were big mountains. As the mountains eroded, numerous rivers carried sand and rock into the rift valley and deposited it. These sandy and rocky deposits then were buried and turned into a solid rock. Most of the nice rounded rocks you find in the Copper Harbor Conglomerate are a type of volcanic rock known as rhyolite.
Actually, 1.1 Billion years ago there was some life on earth. In some places within the Copper Harbor Conglomerate you can find fossils of stromatolites, which are a blue-green algae (I think we call it cyanobacteria these days).
I don't actually know what the oldest sedimentary rock on earth is. Most rocks a billion years old have been metamorphosed. Capt. Paul specializes in the old rocks so he might be able to answer that question.
As to why the rocks weren't metamorphosed... well, if you want to get technical, they were very, very mildly metamorphosed due to being buried pretty deep. The reason they weren't metamorphosed more than that is because not much happened at that area of the earth's crust. Major metamorphism usually happens where mountains are built (like the Himalayas), and none of that happened in the Keweenaw after the Copper Harbor Conglomerate formed.
Did any of this make sense? Did I answer all your questions? Answering science questions on line is more fun than facing the paperwork sitting on my desk right now!


By Rachel from Little Betsy on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:21 pm:

Congrats to Jim on the loan for the White House. Will definitely be glad to stop by once it's reopened.

My husband and I enjoyed the latest Red Green movie. When the huge duck made of tape "flew" into the competition, I laughed for ten straight minutes!


By Bob G. Houghton Lake, MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:22 pm:

re: Escanaba. I thought most of the story was ok, but I thought the production value was very poor...sometimes $ can make the difference between an ok movie and a great movie. Another 'ting':) that bugged me(and it's more my problem than the movie) was I just couldn't look at the dad in the movie (Harve Presnell) without thinking of his absolutely devious character Mr. Parker in the Pretender series.:)

First day of fall and my job today was to make room in the pole barn for the boat and camper trailer...too busy to balance eggs.:) I have a corellary(sp?) to the expanding universe theorem that states that a person's belongings will quickly expand to fill all available space...I had to beat that stuff back today...it wasn't pretty.:)


By k on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:25 pm:

Charlie and Edie;
How long have you lived in the UP ???
I can hear that good ol' accent in your voices on the media file !!!
We moved 14 years ago, and I still am told I have an accent (Most people I meet ask if i'm canadian).
But, when we return to the UP for a visit, most of our old UP buddies say we've developed a "hillbilly" accent from being trapped downstate for 14 years.

K,

Edie and I spent a great deal of time here in the summers since 1965 (teenagers), moved to Marquette in 1975, and lived in Eagle River since 1988.


By Therese from just below the bridge on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:47 pm:

Thanks, Dr Nat! You answered my questions! I didnt realize cyanobacteria dated back that far. Makes me proud to be part of the great continuum of life, over 1 billion years old and counting.


By Ronald Oregon on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:48 pm:

Escanaba in Da Moonlight?

I posted a message here about two years ago about how much
that movie stinks and was called down for that by current
Yoopers.

I am a Copper Country native but moved away some time ago
for variety of reasons. I don't like movies making small of people
who live in the UP.

That movie still stinks, always will stink and is an insult to
Michigan and the UP.
I am glad some people are finally saying what needed to be said
long time ago. Just because somebody makes a movie about you
does not mean you have to like it. Stink stink stink.


By Been there , done that on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:49 pm:

I believe MTU's legendary Doc Berry is in a Hancock nursing home. Good instructor, tough class.


By Margaret, Amarillo TX on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:15 pm:

Hooray Jim: Great news for the White House. Thunderstorm Javier down here today. Still rainin' tonight


By by JE Owosso on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:25 pm:

The video worked great. Keep up the good work.


By Judy Chesaning MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:25 pm:

Brilliant use of duct tape...Grandson kept ripping off his diapers. Son ran a length of duct tape around the top of his diapers. No more bare baby boy!


By Finlander's wife on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:46 pm:

My 2 cents about Escanaba in da Moonlight.

A big group of us went to see it and laughed through most of it. Yes, some parts were stupid silly. No, it isn't an accurate description of life in the Yooper! BUT; it was a "TALL TALE"; a deer camp TALL TALE! Come on... lighten up!


By Tom, Toledo on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:52 pm:

Charlie: The video worked great. I also enjoy the football games on Friday. You just don't know how much people appreciate your efforts. I live almost 600 miles away, but can still get my daily "fix" from God's Country.


By grimace on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:30 pm:

The equation must be balanced!
If Escanaba in da Moonlight is equal to our present political campaign then what was Doc Berrys' Ch 101 lecture equal .


By ILMHitCC on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:49 pm:

Sorry, 'Been there, done that', but Doc Berry passed some time ago. Miss seeing him out with the dogs around the Harbor. Always an opportunity for a story!


By Bthecute1, San Jose on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:51 pm:

Happy Birthday to Cy Meier, who use to be our neighbor in Calumet. May you have a lifetime filled with happiness. Hi Candy. Did my mom teach you how to make the best pasties ever! To bad we don't live closer...we could venture into the pasty business, and let California know what a REAL pasty tastes like....we could maybe call it Candies Kitchen or Beverly's Pasties or.....? Have a good evening :)
Beverly Oja-Faraj


By Catherine--Holland MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:59 pm:

The "MacGyver" character is based on a real guy from the
UP who now lives out west. I can't remember where he is
from, exactly--I will try and find out.


By Ronald, Oregon on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:07 pm:

One more comment about Escanaba in Da Moonlight?

The thing that angered me most was that it laughed AT Yoopers
not WITH Yoopers. I have spent time at hunting camps and all of
that.

I remain a Yooper at heart.


By Louan-Elk Rapids MI on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:40 pm:

Charlie,
Good luck with your new best friend. I had a dog that was the spittin' image of him. I almost named him Buddy, but opted for Woody. He was a poodle/boarder collie mix and lived to be 18 years old. It was good to see the video clip and remember my own best friend.


By Ken and Mimi from da UP on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 12:20 am:

The video and the audio worked fine for us. Looks like Buddy is a nice friend to have. Kiitos, Charlie and Edie.
Shelly, haven't heard 'pew' since I can't remember when! LOL. :o) Love to watch Red Green, I'm a card carrying member even. If I can't be handsome, I can at least be handy. Pass the tape, we're all in this together!
Dr. Nat, thanx for the explanation of the Copper Harbor Conglomerate. Verrry interesting!


By Hilary on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 01:24 am:

Ronald- well said. The thing about humor is that there is a fine line to be crossed, and this is especially true with ethnic/regional humor. The sense I got from Escanaba... is that Daniels and his fellow actors did not actually spend much time getting to know authentic subjects from which to create their composites. There are plenty of documentaries about Upper Michigan; I am not asking for that. I am just saying that with any piece of art (which is what good cinema/theater aspires to be) one must strive to provide some basis of reality (and alternate realities are fine) that connects to the audience. The risk the artist takes is that he may offend his subject and with a title including the name of a known UP community in it, you can guarantee that Yoopers (and by inferrence, subjects) will naturally be in the audience. Although I will stop short of calling myself an artist, as a graduate student about to commence on a multi-hundred page paper on Upper Peninsula folk culture, I am acutely aware of my responsibility to the people that I represent. While Indiana University may be oblivious to any cultural stomping I engage in, my subjects WILL know; they will see the book. It makes me wish that Daniels and people like him could see what our real family lives and communities and social networks are like.

OK, tirade over. I am going to bed. I am also glad to hear that I wasn't the only one rubbed wrong by it, even after all this time. I was in lower Michigan at college when the film came out (and when Super Sucker did too) and the hype that the film received from acquaintances just underscores to me the fact that there is a big culture gap.

Hilary


By Capt. Paul in Nevada on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 02:00 am:

The oldest "unmetamorphosed" sedimentary rocks are found in the Pilbara Region of Western Australia. The rocks here are 3.5 to 3.6 billion years old. However, the oldest rocks on Earth are found in the Northwest Territory near Great Slave Lake; those rocks, the Acasta Gneiss, is 4.2 billion years old based on detrital zircon ages. If one wants to see old rocks in the UP, drive to Republic on M-95 and on the side of the road there is a roadcut with rocks dated to about 3.5 billion, and yes, there are loose pieces.

And yes, everything can be fixed with duct tape and a good imagnination ;-)


By Russ E. St. Clair county MI on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 02:52 am:

Charlie: Yes The audio and video came in fine on my Windows Media "9" player---Cute eh!


By mooseon the loosein ohio on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 07:15 am:

Nice picture sis! The video came through fine with "Buddie" doinghis tricks! Looks like he is going to be a winner!


By Roger J., Novi on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 12:34 pm:

Escanaba in da Moonlight played at Detroit area movie houses a short month after the sudden death of my god daughter at age 24. I had never cried as hard as upon hearing of her death. We took our best friends out to dinner and a movie. We saw our uncles and cousins and ourselves. We laughed until we cried. After these tears we somehow felt a little better and knew things would be alright. Thanks Jeff Daniels


By Pasty tv on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 02:31 pm:

Not sure it matters Charlie but the video works fine useing Mozzila foxfire browser.


By Mary Lou on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 06:29 pm:

My grandson found an interesting rock at our camp at Bootjack........and Stan Dyl described it as.. "a band of agate in a besalt matrix"..... est age 2.5 billion yrs .......he asked if we would loan it to the Seaman Museum at MTU....so it is in a very special case in the Copper Country Collection........ I never took "rocks" for granted after that experience.


By shy yooper on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 07:28 pm:

Yahooooooo....congrats Jim!!!!!



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