Sep 18-04

Past-E-Mail: Cam Notes - 2004: Sep: Sep 18-04
Iron Smelter    ...scroll down to share comments
Photos by Robert Goniea
Bay Furnace beach    ...scroll down to share comments
Photos by Robert Goniea

Toivo from Toivola on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 07:57 am:

I know, I know, Santa's workshop is in the North Pole, not Christmas, MI, but I just couldn't resist! Actually this is an old Iron Smelter at Bay Furnace Campground, part of the Hiawatha National Forest. It was operational from 1869 to 1877, when fire destroyed the little iron smelting town of Onota, population 500. Robert Goniea brings us today's shots of U.P. history being preserved. The beach shot has a couple pieces of wood that have washed up on shore. The lower one has a metal spike in it. Robert speculates that it could be a remnant of a support structure for the furnace, perhaps a dock, or a piece of an old shipwreck. With the timber still round, not hewn, he figures it's more likely the former. If only those brick walls and pieces of wood could talk, what a story they'd be able to tell! For those of you not sure where we are today, here's a little help - -


By Mr. Bill on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 08:01 am:

Wow - always educational.

First PostNot so early actually, but still first post!

By Mike B. - Pittsburgh on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 08:01 am:

Hey, I finally got the early bird.

By Mike B. - Pittsburgh on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 08:02 am:


By Tyler in GR on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 08:06 am:

Good Morning all.

By John Jacob on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 08:12 am:

Looks like someone did some touch ups to this photo. This looks alot different than Roberts original in his gallery.

Have a great day
John Jacob

Toivo sezs -- Check out the Pasty Cam Photo Submission Policy, for clarification, in particular #3.

By Barb, GR MI on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 08:15 am:

Good morning to everyone.

By NKR Mishawaka IN on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 08:34 am:

Good morning from Mishawaka IN. Great pictures. Is there a campground in Bay Furnace? I remember camping at Bay Furnace when I was little and on our way up to Copper Harbor (late 1950's). It was pretty rough. Tall weeds, terrible outhouses and remnants of the iron smelters. The mosquito's were the size of dragonflies. As a kid I loved it. My Dad loved it. My Mom hated it. Just wondering if its the same place.

By Carole on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 09:00 am:

NKR- Yes, there still is a campground at Bay Furnace. ALthough it is rustic camping, the grounds are well kept with two campground host. We stay at a cabin nearby but ride thru there at least twice a day while up in the area. ALso walk along the beach and the paths in the woods. Very quiet and peaceful with some stunning scenery.

By NKR Mishawaka IN on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 09:29 am:

Carole- Thank you. It brings back such great memories. Thats why I love this web site. Although my children and sister and her family still go camping, we go a little closer to home at the Sleeping Bear Nat'l. Park. But I hope to get them to the UP soon so they can see for themselves how beautiful it is up there.

By Norma in Midland on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 10:03 am:

Hi Chuck and Dad, Hope you had a safe trip back to Motown!! Sarah, hope you are doing okay with all the rain in Ohio. Have a great day everyone!!

By P.Goniea;Dbn.,Mi. on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 10:09 am:

Good morning to all and congratulations to my son Bob
for having been choosen today. A very good picture
and also excellent album.

By Louise in Hancock on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 11:35 am:

My husband and I stayed in the campground this summer after being away from there for 15 yrs. It is such a beautiful place and wished we had our canoe to go across to the island. The hosts were really helpful and interesting to visit with. We were there in Aug. and most of the places were full. Nice to be seniors as the Golden Pass only cost us $5 a night. Great pictures. We took many but don't have a digital camera yet.

By G.Goniea,Monroe,Mi. on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 12:06 pm:

You have a great eye for taking pics keep up the good work.Your dad put us on to this site, thank you very much. Now we can see all the out of the way places we missed while camping through some of the more main stream areas.

By Scott Wi. on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 12:45 pm:

Go visit Robert's photo galery!
Grand Island is a nice shot. Never been
there and will visit soon.

By Misty on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 12:57 pm:

This is... a calming place to visit.

By Chris, IL on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 01:20 pm:

Welcome back Toivo, it has been awhile, was the mystery of your disappearance ever solved? For what it's worth, I think the touch ups to the photo are for the better. Have a good one cammers....

By Helen on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 01:37 pm:

Yes I have to agree that touch ups on photos, bring out more of the natural colors of the area it has been shot from.
It is just more of a natural look.

By F' Cubed on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 03:15 pm:

Mitä kuuluu? Suomalainen tyttö

Hyvaa Paivaa to all living near the Iso Vesi (Big Water).

Hope all have a kaunis syksy päivä (beautiful autumn day).

Nauttia (enjoy) a day in your soutuvene (boat) on tyyni vesi (calm water)


By ert, GA on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 03:30 pm:

I was just re-reading yesterday's posts, and, with all the talk of berry picking, I started to wonder about snakes. I seem to remember that there are no venomous snakes in the UP. Is that correct?

By Greta, Milwaukee on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:03 pm:

Don't think there are any venomous snakes, but a pine snake can have a particularly ornery and nasty attitude. The bite can give you an ugly infection but it's not poisonous.

By John Jacob on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 06:09 pm:


You might have took my comment the wrong way. It was a compliment.

By Troll in Eagle Harbor on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 06:44 pm:

Still waiting to see a pine snake.I'm starting to think they are a 1st cousin to the snow snake...They also have a terrible bite...

By Margaret, Amarillo TX on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 07:06 pm:

MI State playing against ND. What a way to spend the afternoon.

By Suomalainen tyttö on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 07:08 pm:

Paivaa, F'Cubed,
Ei hyvin. Lauantai askareet. ja te?
Obviously, I'm just's great that you're helping all of us with these words. Kiittos!

By Candy, CA on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 07:10 pm:

Anyone know when the bridge cam will be back in order? I miss my daily CC fix! And Toivo, I'm glad to see your handiwork again, too -- nice tweak of today's pic. Amazing what a little push on the contrast and brightness will do! Nice original, too, Robert -- lots of great shots in his gallery!

By Snowman on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 08:26 pm:

The snow fleas should be out pretty soon. They appear about the same time the snow snakes do. They are a nuisance along with the yellow snow.

By Capt. Paul in Nevada on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 08:54 pm:

Isn't it amazing to think of how technology has changed in iron smelting from the smelters at Bay Furnace to the modern methods used by companies like CC and Minnesota/Mesaba.

Remember, if it can't be grown, it has to be mined!!!

By Bob G. on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 09:12 pm:

You know, you people keep it up and I'm gonna need a larger hat! :) Of course, many of the compliments came from relatives so I'm not sure I can count them.;) Thanks to all. Special thanks to Toivo for bringing the extra pop out of the photos. My scanner is not the greatest in the world. I think he actually brought them back to what they are on the prints I got back from the lab. (yes, I'm a dinosaur using a film camera)

Would've responded earlier in the day, but I was out feeding my other major hobby, woodworking. Scored a huge cache of oak and cherry at a local auction for a great price. Bad news, I blew out TWO tires on the trailer hauling it back. (I MAY have overloaded it just a TEENY bit:) )

Thanks again, and maybe when the mood hits, I'll add more photos to the album from my archive.

By Andytofu, Sedar Bay on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 02:12 am:

To F Cubed: Don't know if you prefer spelling out F Cubed, but it can also be written as F³ simply by depressing Num Lock and holding the Alt key while typing 02227. A²

By ³ on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 03:26 am:

05555 works too

By Russ E. St. Clair county MI on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 03:36 am:

Bob G.--- Charming photos! I went over your whole album! I too am a "dinasour" with a film camera ( Pentax K1000 35mmSLR--for now!) Remember tho, many of the top professionals and "purists" still stick with film! Digitals are more "crisp" and faster to use, but I believe many of the film shots have a more natural or "honest" look so to speak! I notice that my scanned pics lose something in the process too. The prints in hand from the lab ARE more clear. Some of my real old pics from the older simple cameras seem to scan better! I have more old ones and upcoming ones to sometime put in my album here. Anyhow --keep up the good work!

By Joanne White LK on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 02:06 pm:

Bobby Va.
Lesson learned. Hei Hei {and kyvasil}

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