Sep 09-04

Past-E-Mail: Cam Notes - 2004: Sep: Sep 09-04
Shining through    ...scroll down to share comments
Photo by Roger Kangas
Window to the past    ...scroll down to share comments
Photo by Chad Johnson

Mary Drew at Pasty Central on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 06:02 am:

Fog can create both beauty and mystery at once, as is evidenced in the top photo here. Roger Kangas captured the sun's rays slicing the fog, and spreading through the remnants of one of the Quincy Mine building windows. Then as the sun rises into the morning sky, it warms up the air, burning away the mist, leaving only the sunshine behind - as in the second photo by Chad Johnson. With the sun high above, we get a look at the intricate handiwork of builders from days past. Looks to me like mine rock was mortared together to form the walls of those old mining buildings, making both a functional and an eye-pleasing structure in their day. Not to mention a historical item for future generations to explore.

By Roz, GR MI on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 06:04 am:

good morning everyone--enjoy this glorious day!
First Post

By Arn Wendt Coopersville, LP on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 06:04 am:

Good Morning from Troll central. We have color down here!!!!

By danbury on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 06:06 am:

Can't resist - good afternoon everyone! ;)

By Dom on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 06:28 am:

Nicely taken photos, it's that time of the year when the early morning fog is almost daily. My kinda weather, 60s-70s daytime and cool nights.

P.S. Good afternoon danbury (12:30 P.M. already) from Heidelberg.

By Margaret, Amarillo TX on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 06:38 am:


By Ellen, Mi. on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 06:45 am:

Good Morning all, Looks like a "Beautiful day in the Neighborhood"..... Fall in in the Air!!!

By Barb @ Traditions on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 06:45 am:

To be more specific (see yesterday) my reasons for going out of business are all about grandchildren, quilting & boating - in that order. It's all about freeing up more time. Again, thanks to a wonderful customer base. I'm really going to miss that part of it.

By georgia on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 06:47 am:

The rock wall and window are beautiful.
I was raised in the mountains and after39 yr. I still miss seeing the rocks.


By NKR Mishawaka IN on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 06:52 am:

Good morning from cool Mishawaka IN.

By Audrey, San Jose, CA CURRENTLY headed NW in the UP on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:05 am:

Good morning all!

A beautiful morning in Manistique. Took a sunset walk out to the lighthouse last night! Headed up to Ontonogan today. I just love it up here! Just 2 more days of this wonderful vacation before we fly home on Saturday morning :-(. One thing we said more than anything was "next time". So many places we want to see again and spend more time at. We could have easily stayed longer everywhere!

Mary... nice pictures! At first I thought it was Fayette State Park where we were yesterday.

By Audrey, San Jose, CA CURRENTLY headed NW in the UP on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:06 am:


I saw your post yesterday, and I replied a little while after that. Don't know if you saw it or not, so if not... talk to your stepmom!!

By Marc, Painesdale on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:07 am:

Alex in GA. I just recieved an email from you this morning w/ an attachment. Is it the real deal or a virus? Can't be too careful these days!

By J.P. on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:13 am:

Notice how nature is slowly reclaiming this structure. Without protection, the top layers have lost their mortar joints. Wind, rain, snow,& ice will win in the end, but this wall will definetly outlast me.

By Kim near Lansing on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:16 am:

Hang on again Florida, It doesn't look good...

By BT,TC on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:42 am:

The first picture looks like an angel....very cool pictures!

By NKR Mishawaka IN on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:49 am:

Just checked out the Mich. Tech webcams. Looks a little foggy in the UP this morning. The Ripley cam looks really spooky and pretty. Have a good day everyone.

By camwatcher on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:54 am:

We must be thinking alike today. It was 40° when I ventured out with the camera this morning to capture some fog.
September Fog

By danbury on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:57 am:

Hi Dom, I'm getting curious - what was it again you were doing in Heidelberg?

By george , muskegon on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 08:11 am:

leaving today with some friends for a reunion in houghton. can't wait to re-explore the keweenaw, play golf. i look at this sight first thing every morning for the pictures and commentary. i'm not sure what is more enjoyable. i told my sister in hawaii about this site and told her she should model one like this.

By anita, mi on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 08:21 am:

morning all. Sure feels like fall.

By flyintomorrow on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 08:30 am:

You can model.............but there dere is only one Yooperland for sure hey. This is probably the most civilized site I have ever visited....

By george, muskegon on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 08:39 am:

any pasty cam people TKE's going up for reunion?

By db, OK on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 08:41 am:

Goodday from OK!

54 degrees in Tulsa - almost Yooperish, only without all the trees and natural lakes.

Sure miss the Greatest Lakes....

By elm on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 08:49 am:

Barb and all at Traditions, Enjoy! Enjoy! You too will be missed.

By Justin J - Brighton but born and raised Yooper! on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 08:54 am:

Good morning

Everywhere in MI is a little slower this morning with the feeling of fall in the air. My fiance and I are headed to Esky next weekend for a last trip before we are married on Oct. 30th. I was thinking of taking her back to the Eben ice caves so she can see what the area looks like before snow or Dead river falls in Marquette. Is it still accessable since the dam broke this spring? If anyone has a good idea pass it on. Thanks and a good day to all.

By John Saginaw on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 09:04 am:

Happy 3rd Birthday Jason Ackerman in Houghton--Gramma and Grampa are on their way.

By Jerry Florida on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 09:07 am:

Palm beach florida the lights went back on yesterday morning and had a good night sleep, alot of tree damage but house is fine.

By maijaMI on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 09:16 am:

GREAT pictures! Love the old stone buildings.

Fog: The tech cams were awesome this morning around 9:00. The Ripley cam was ghostly with thin fog floating down the canal, and the view cam of Houghton was in full sun with a finger of cloud over the canal and bridge.

By maijaMI on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 09:19 am:

WOW! After I wrote the above msg. I checked the tech cams again. Cloud totally gone--all bright sun on both live cams. pay attention every minute in the magical Keeweenaw or you'll miss something incredible!

By Mr. Wheatman, South end on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:00 am:

Ahh, as the budding ante meridiem incalescence lessens, the sun's luminosity intensifies. A resplendent depiction of autumn's advent indeed.


By shelly/Yankee in Texas on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:15 am:

Good Morning from Houston! Our weather is cooling down too, and these days feel like Michigan summers for our "Fall temps".

Audrey- I'll call my stepmom tonight. I think its so neat that you were there, and saw where my parents live. I know the lighthouse walk very well. :)

I really like Roger's picture. It makes me think how those before us lived thier lives, and what they left us; like great history, and memories that I can only hope to leave for my children and grandchildren in the years to come.

By Cookie--Lake on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:15 am:

You can say that again

By Sadie on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:18 am:

Pleeeeeez - I need help. My mom continues to experiment in making pasties. This past weekend she used Portobellos mushrooms and tofu as a meat substitute and they were awful. Can someone please tell her to stop!

By Candy, CA on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:25 am:

It's looking like KDay weather!

By LIZ, Pinckney on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:28 am:


Sadie, that sounds terrible!

By very concerned on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:29 am:


This is a serious matter you have on your hands.

She could be extremely dangerous at this point. You need to get her professional help right away!

Start by telling her to step away from the tofu...

By pf on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:35 am:

Sadie, are you Elvira's daughter?

By Capt. Paul in Nevada on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:43 am:

Good morning from sunny, sticky Nevada. Humidity came up over night and we might see some t-storms today.

Many a day I spent inspecting and just looking at those stone walls when I worked at Quincy. If one looks close enough, you can tell certain things like what kind of rock it is, what minerals are in the rock, and what specific flow the rock is from. And even though the mortar is coming loose at the top, those walls are over 100 years old so I'd say they have held up very well given the conditions.

I'm also excited because I get to visit the copper country Oct 7-10, both for business (Seaman Mineral Museum Society Ball) and pleasure (Husky Hockey). Hopefully there will be some leaves left!?!?!

By bk, Il on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:44 am:

Sadie, Ask your Mom whats next! Wieght Watchers pasties!!!!

By anita, mi on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:47 am:

does pastycam have any influence on those who operate the bridge cam? It's stuck on the 6th. the picture doesn't seem to have changed. I do enjoy the bridge cam. thanks

There's a temporary glitch with the bridge cam, the person who operates it, is coming from Finland to fix it, so we need to be patient! For now, just enjoy the beautiful shot last captured. ;->

By dave - colorado on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:50 am:

Serving "pasty-like things" that contain Portobellos and tofu to your children sounds like child abuse...

By Mike, Ex Yooper stuck in Florida on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:56 am:

Greetings from storm battered Polk County
Florida. We are not in as bad shape as we
were after the first storm, but nobody has
gotten any real repairs done yet, just
temporary patches that get blown away easily.
Now there's another hurricane headed our
way. We're all praying it doesn't hit us. We are
right at the intersection of the two previous
storm paths.

When I moved here everyone told me not to
worry about hurricanes. There hadn't been
one in Plok County since 1960.

Sure do miss the UP. A snow storm is much
less a problem than a hurricane (or two)!!!

By Candy, CA on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 11:03 am:

Hey, Capt. Paul (and Dr. Nat, I hope), how cool for you to be going back to da Tech (cool being the operative word) for the Mineral Ball AND hockey. I'd love to be able to be there for the hockey 100-year anniversary celebration in two weekends, when Tech alums take on Wings alums. Tech prof Bill Sproule has been working on this for a long time. Huskie players include Mike Zuke, Mike Usitalo, Jim Storm and Brent Peterson, and Randy McKay, who will also play with the Wings. The Wings team has Shawn Burr, Dennis Hextall, Tony McKegney and Eddie Mio.
Gordie Howe will drop the ceremonial first puck.

I was at Tech from 71-75 and I'd love to see these "old" guys play again!

By joanne white lk on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 11:18 am:

my sister cried when someone served her pasty with gravey I'm sure this recipe will throw her completly over the edge.

By Alex Tiensivu, Georgia on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 11:21 am:

Anyone know what happened to the Bridge Cam? I miss my live pix! :)

Check the message five posts above!

By Dr. Nat in Nevada on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 11:29 am:

Good morning!
Beautiful photos today! I love all the old buildings of the Keweenaw's glory days. 'Tis a sad thing that some folks don't appreciate the beauty and history of the old shaft houses and buildings. The Copper Country played a unique part in American History, it is something to be proud of and not forgotten.

It is a happy day for me today. I will be in Houghton for a few days in October. Business trips that take me to places I actually want to go are a good thing!

Sadie: You need to have an immediate pasty intervention with your mother. It is disturbing to think about a tofu-stuffed pasty-like thing. I am sorry you had to suffer the horror of eating such a thing.

Have a great day everyone!

By yooper66 on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 11:49 am:

Sadie.... so sorry to hear what your Mother is doing to you. Yes, I also think an intervention is needed. Find her a good 12 Step program dealing with over-ambitious cooks. What she is making is not a 'pasty'..... sounds more like a 'nasty'...! Anyways, all of us pasty lovers send you our deepest sympathy. sm

By Troll in Eagle Harbor on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 12:16 pm:

Hey Sadie....Tell your Ma that the EPA could get involved with her experimentations...My advice is don't let it pass your lips...

By Kathy from Whitmore Lake on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 12:29 pm:

Sadie, maybe you could use an historical argument: "They didn't have tofu or portobello mushrooms in Cornwall when the miners emigrated to the UP". Actually, she is doing a misservice to both the pasty and the portobellos, which are EXCELLENT as side dish with steak.

By Jerry, Wis. on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 12:35 pm:

Hey bk in IL, you mispelled "weight". I hate being a spellchecker for yous guys!!! Have a super yuper day!!!

By joanne white lk on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 12:49 pm:

Jerry in wis
Leave us yoopers alone eh.Yous whats that/
Just promise not to check my spelling.u have a goot day eh

By ert, GA on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 12:56 pm:

Portebellos -- YUM!!! Tofu -- YUM (in the right conditions)! Portebellos and tofu in a pasty -- YUCK!!! Should be against the law!!! It is sacrilegious!

By Capt. Paul in Nevada on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 12:57 pm:

Candy CA
As much as I'd love to be up there for the anniversary, work prevents me from taking too much time off, especially with me just starting a new job ;-) Still, this trip in October (yes, with Dr. Nat) will be great because I get to see some of my very good friends that play on the hockey team this year. I just graduated from Tech with my M.S. so some of the players were also my students and I've known them since they were freshman

Sadie it sounds like you have a major problem on your hands!!!! While I actually admit to liking gravy on a pasty with mashed potatoes, tofu on the other hand.......... I have to agree with yooper66 in calling it a "nasty", BLAH!!

I've only been here a month and I already miss "pasty day at da MUB"!!!!! I'm going to suffer withdraws soon... hehehee

Never fear, Capt. Paul, you and Dr. Nat don't need to suffer withdrawals at all, just click on over and order Genuine U.P. Pasties, delivered right to your door, then heat and eat!

By Alice, Ventura, CA on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 01:23 pm:

Pasty is Pasty! Tofu and portabellos should be somewhere else. I hate it when people mess with a good recipe. I once showed my CA sister-in-law how to make pasties. Next thing you knew she had added gravy, green peppers, mixed vegetables, and all kinds of "improvements." My thinking, she had created something new. Not a pasty.

By Fran,Ga on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 01:25 pm:

What!! Another Frances in Ga. Welcome!

Nice photos today.Will be glad when the bridge cam is back.

By shelly/Yankee in Texas on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 02:13 pm:


Talked to Annette from Manistique this afternoon! She said she thought it was really cool that you came in and said HI. Thanks!!


By Rose on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 02:20 pm:

Sadie: You need to take today's notes and print them out. Gently, oh so gently, slide them over to your mother at the dinner table. Tell her you understand....It doesn't take 12 steps. Just one. Away from the kitchen !

By Matt, White Lake MI on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 02:30 pm:

What are the dates for the Michigan Tech/Red Wing alumni hockey game?

By Bob G. Houghton Lake, MI on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 02:42 pm:

Gee, why should I stay out of the fun today? You want old window openings? There's one from Delaware Mine in my guest gallery.:)
I'd post it here...but my sieve like brain has forgotten how.:p

by Bob G
A little help from the moderator :o)
By FRNash/PHX, AZ on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 02:49 pm:

"... gravy, green peppers, mixed vegetables, and all kinds of "improvements" [in pasties]..."

Geez, what an inspiration! Now I'll have to try my hand at pasty variants. Hmm let's see:

Mexican Pasties (Served of course with guacamole and pico de gallo instead of ketchup or Toivo & Eino's Pasty Sauce):

1. Mexican breakfast pasty: Chorizo & eggs in a pasty crust.
2. Pasty burritos: Carne adobada (spicy pork), or machaca beef with rice & beans in a pasty crust.
3. Chimichanga pasty: Machaca beef or chicken guisado with fiery jalapeño chilies (from Hatch, NM of course) in a deep fried pasty crust. Optionally covered in Queso fundido or guacamole.
4. Pozole pasty: filled with spicy pork and hominy.
5. Pasty cheese crisp: A golden fried flattened pasty crust covered with squeaky cheese and chopped fiery Hatch chiles.
6. Chipotle shrimp pasty?

Thai pasties:
Pad Thai pasty with fish sauce or soy sauce, served with a side of uncooked bean sprouts and cilantro. Perhaps some durian for dessert!

Ahhh, the possibilities are endless… I can’t wait to move back to the Copper Country and open my new restaurant!.— “Pastybilities”!

(And I’ve obviously spent too much time in the desert without a sombrero!)

By Jeff in FL, waiting for Ivan on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 03:10 pm:

Hey FRNash from Phoenix!
You know about durian? Can you imagine what a yooper would do in the presence of a fresh durian?
For those of you unfamiliar with it, the durian is a watermelon-sized fruit that grows on trees in Southeast Asia. It is the foulest-smelling thing there is, but oddly, it's also one of the tastiest things around! (If you can get past the smell.)

By joanne white lk on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 03:12 pm:

gravey with pasty might be good, I cant figure out how to make gravey from pasty. { Hi Jen}

By shelly on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 03:21 pm:

FRNash from Phoenix-

I think I'm gonna be sick....

By Alex Tiensivu, Georgia on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 03:25 pm:




By bill, in Colorado on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 03:28 pm:

well, at least it's better than the tofu pancakes with hot dog slices that I was served for dinner at a friends house years ago...

my first words were, "so, got anything to drink around here?"

By FRNash/PHX, AZ on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 03:28 pm:

For those who have never meet a durian...
Smithsonian Magazine, Sept 1999: Durians Smell Awful — But the Taste Is Heavenly

Just Google® "durian" for more info.

By shelly on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 03:44 pm:

My kids were given hot dog pizza once at a small after school day care. Watch out Dominos. :)

By elm on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 03:48 pm:

Sadie get your mother to confession. She's commiting a sin. Bless you my child for what you have to put up with.

By Marc, Painesdale on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 03:54 pm:

Alex Tiensivu,
I recieved an email with an attachment from you this morning. Is it the real deal or a virus?

By Marcy/Arizona on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 04:52 pm:

Hello everyone! Wish it would feel like fall around here only 105 today! I work outside everyday so I am getting a bit tired of it. All this talk about pasty`s sure makes me hungry and homesick! have a great day!

By Julie, Clinton Twp on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 04:55 pm:

Hello from Clinton Twp! It is breezy and sunny here, the temp is just right for me 72 degrees.
Hope all is well with all of you, I wish I could be up there visiting all of my "relies" and enjoying saunas instead of showers....sigh

Sadie - I agree - you should print off the postings for the day and show your mother. A pasty is a pasty until you mess it all up which is what she has done. The ingredients that she added are not meant for pasties. Good luck!

By Misty on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 04:56 pm:

Mike, ex Yooper stuck in Fl. Just get your place all fixed up and move back "UP" here. That is the solution to the problem of those there hurricanes.

By Fran,Ga on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 05:00 pm:

Poor Sadie, Your Mom's your only hope is to learn to make your own pastys. Your mom's sound disgusting. Bless her heart her ears must be ringing today!!!!

By Dr. Nat in Nevada on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 05:01 pm:

Today's postings are making me hungry. The thought of pasties (ones without tofu) started it all. I can't wait to get up there and have one again.
Then FRNash had to bring up chiles. My home state is New Mexico, the number one chile producing state in the Union. Hatch, New Mexico is the chile capital of the world (or so my friends from Hatch always tell me). September is chile harvesting time in New Mexico. We pick lots and lots of green chiles and roast them. (Green chile are New Mexico Chiles, not to be confused with Jalapenos. Jalapenos are dark green and small, New Mexico Chiles tend to be a slightly lighter shade of green and are much larger than Jalapenos. Both are cultivated in New Mexico, but we tend to eat much more of the green chile than jalapenos). It seems you can't go anywhere in New Mexico in September without smelling that tantalizing scent of roasting chile. After they're roasted, we put 'em on or in just about everything: enchiladas, burritos, omlettes, burgers, fries, casseroles, stews, etc. Right now, my stomach is grumbling for some green chile as an appetizer and a nice big pasty for the main course.

By Roudy Mi on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 05:12 pm:

It's a good thing there was an intense subject today. It's hard to read a post after Wheatman posts.

By Dave Cloutier - Littleton, Colorado on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 05:14 pm:

If you think about it a lot of ethnic foods have their own pasty-like equivalents. For instance, in Italian they are called calzones; in mexico they are burritos, in chinese they are mu shu, and in France they are crepes (not to be confused with craps). The things that poor Sadie's mother is making simply are not pasties. I think someone said it earlier... they should be called nastys!

By Lorelei on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 05:16 pm:

Matt, White Lake, MI
The Wings & Husky's play on the 26th of Sept.

By Kate, CA on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 05:20 pm:

Wheatman, I love your refreshing view of the world. Such erudition should be rewarded with a bottle of Eino and Toivo sauce!

By DJB on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 05:37 pm:


By Mary Lou on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 05:37 pm:

My Great grandfather, Johann Joseph Fretter was a stonemason in Heinsburg, West Phalia, Germany( In the Saurland)..... he was in his mid-forties and he had a family of teenagers..... when he was hired by Quincy in 1884..during the building program at the mine.........I loved the haunting pictures of his work and remember how my lovely grandmother,Mary, who at 17 had to leave her homeland never to return.......I think her heart was left in Germany.but she spent the rest of her life in Lake Linden.

By Grimace on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 06:17 pm:

My soul touched the center today. The Keweenaw
was the way. A great day here I wish you all could
come and stay!

By downstate don on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 06:40 pm:

If you are in the Lake Linden area and possibly
traveling out to Bootjack, stop at the Backstreet
Cafe. They have excellent sandwiches and soup...
great breakfasts also. The waitresses are very
friendly and hospitable. It is located just as you
are leaving to go towards Bootjack on the left hand side of the road. It is also on the way out to Dreamland. Have a good day!

By bill, in Colorado on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 06:41 pm:

Darn! I was hoping for an opinion from Mr. Wheatman on the use of tofu in a pasty!

By Bek, fond du lac on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:07 pm:

I love the posts today! What a refreshing subject. But I do have to defend individuals who are creative enough to look outside of the box of the original my father in law. A 100% true blood yooper he owns and operates his own successful pasty shop in Appleton. He not only offers the original beef pasty (with or without gravy) he also offers italian sausage, green pepper, turkey, veggie, tuna, mini's and smaller breakfast pasty with scrambled eggs, ham, bacon and cheese.
Variety is what the customer wants, variety is what the customer gets. I happen to love the turkey, to each his own.

By Hilary Indiana School year, UP native on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:25 pm:

Well, I'm glad that the heat has been taken off us Finns and our carrot-filled pasties. Sadie, thank your mom for turning a small, localized ethnic food fight into a more international one!


By Hey in the valley on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:28 pm:

Bek which shop is that?I live in G B and have heard of a couple good shops down your way..WE miss the Pastyland shop up here.We could use a couple good pasty shops!

By Bek, fond du lac on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:38 pm:

Hey in the valley,
The PastyKoop on East Wisconsin Ave. He started out in his basement up in Greenbay several years ago. Email me for more details if you're interested.

By Bek, fond du lac on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:39 pm:


By Ms. Katie, Il. on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:49 pm:

Bek,fond du lac.....what's the name and location of your father-in-laws pasty shop? I'll keep it in mind whenever we get up that way. Boy this has been a wild and crazy day here at Pasty Cam, love it! Aren't we a bunch of corkers? I've had people suggest using chicken with broccoli for a pasty, but that would be sacrilegious! Also, Mr. Wheatman, may I be so bold as to ask where South end is? South of where and which end?

By bek, fond du lac on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 07:55 pm:

Sorry Mary! I didn't mean to open a can of worms, LOL : )

Ms. Katie, Il and Hey in the valley
The name of his shop is The PastyKoop. It's several miles East on Wisconsin Ave.
135 E Wisconsin Ave

It's a great shop to visit. He has all kinds of yooper memorabilia and other yooper favorites such as several varieties of tarts and fudge.

By downstate don on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 08:13 pm:

Karen/Florida; How are things going with you...
haven't heard from you in awhile. Please let me

By pastyfan on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 08:32 pm:

Hey, there could be an Irish pasty with cabbage, potato
and lamb? and buttermilk instead of ketchup:) walter p
in tampa,what do ya say?

By Sadie on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 08:33 pm:

Nasty is right! Tofu, Portobellos, and Broccoli. Sorry I'm so late. School and homework you know. She won't let the kitchen make them, she has to do it herself. They are dry and tasteless, and when I commented on it, she told me to add hot sauce. I need an intervention of the first degree.

By hey in the valley on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 09:31 pm:

Thanks that was the place I was thinking of.I work with people who say it is a great pasty if you cannot be up on the range .I will stop in next time I am down at "da BIG mall".

By Suzy,Minnesota on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 09:41 pm:

Bob G-Your photos are great! We were looking for the Montreal Falls in August and gave up looking/ Can you tell me how to find? I know where Smith Fisheries Road is but then what? There are so many unmarked roads there now! Thanks!

By Alex Tiensivu, Georgia on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:07 pm:

Good night nurse! I think I'll stick with the Pasty Central pasties!!!!! Thgis is hysterical!

By walter p tampa on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:11 pm:

sorry there is no irish equivalent of da up pasty
or any other country for that matter what you just discribed is called mulligan stew saorstat na hEireann

By walter p tampa on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:13 pm:


By Joey, Olympia, WA on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:31 pm:

Sorry Sadie, I suspect that you have all of us to thank-as I am guessing your Mom to be Elvira. Hey-didn't anyone give her at least a good crust recipe when she was posting? Geesh-at least poor Sadie could have some crust?

By Suzy Q, Calumet on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 10:46 pm:

I love the pasty discussion. I agree that even though I'm a health nut, Sadies mother's pasties sound terrible. I've created a healthy pasty crust that doesn't clog the arteries. You know that shortening is very bad for the the heart and arteries, as is margerine. They are chemically hydrogenated fats. My recipe by the way, is one I will not give out freely, and I'm thinking of marketing my crust. It tastes as good as regular pasty crust too! Maybe pasty central would like to buy my recipe. HA! I'm half joking!

By Jared on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 11:03 pm:

How about a lo-carb pasty wrap at Subway?! of course,
I'm only half-kidding....

By I love Elvira BUT... on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 11:11 pm:

Well well Elvira does have a daughter Sadie according to Google.Do we have the intervention in Calumet or California?

By PT in UP on Thursday, September 9, 2004 - 11:52 pm:

If thats the case then Sadie is only about 10-12 years of age now. The photo was taken in '97 and she only looks to be 5 in the photo.

By Susan, Fl on Friday, September 10, 2004 - 01:28 am:

Dave from glad you're back! Another who is missed is Finnferrfunn....hasn't been heard from in quite some time that I know of. We're keeping a chary eye on "Ivan the Terrible" here in Clearwater....hoping for the best.

By UP pt on Friday, September 10, 2004 - 01:31 am:

Hamburger Helper Pasty with thimbleberry jam on the outer crust. They are pretty good. I would lend you my recipe, but it's just not possible. It's at home and I am not.

By UP pt on Friday, September 10, 2004 - 01:33 am:

heya Dave ol buddy....why the name change? Lights out where I am at. Gotta go!!!!!!

By Dave, Laurium on Friday, September 10, 2004 - 09:00 am:

Susan, Fl...hope you guys down there get a break this time but it doesn't look good. Latest Intellicast weather track has it coming right over the Tampa area, where are you at? Good luck,we're praying for a big wind to blow it somewhere else......Mexico would be nice!!

By Candy, CA on Friday, September 10, 2004 - 11:21 am:

I'm voting for Elvira's "intervention" in California, since that's closer to where I'm at. But actually, if she's a vegetarian, she could just try to make the pasty with no meat substitute instead of two. I'm not a mushroom fan, but I've been told that portabellos taste like beef when they're grilled. Maybe if she ground them like beef and browned it....still not a "real" pasty, but it might be closer than one with tofu. If Sadie is Elvira's daughter, and OUR Elvira is the REAL Elvira, then it's very neat to see that Pasty Central has fans in the Hollywood community!

By Bob G. Houghton Lake, MI on Friday, September 10, 2004 - 03:08 pm:

To Suzie in MN:
Basically you need to stay on Smith Fisheries Road till it ends, then follow a foot trail that continues past that point till you hit the Montreal River. If you have a gps unit, I'd be happy to send you the waypoint coordinates I used to not get lost. Just email me at

ps. thanks moderator.:)

By nj on Saturday, December 4, 2004 - 11:16 pm:

Greetings from Gulf Shores Alabama. We Yoopers call this the U.P. of the South. We too were hit by Ivan. Orange Beach looks like a war zone. Born and raised in Negaunee---my GrandMother also made scrambled egg pasties. So that idea is not new. She baked them in a wood stove and the crust was like iron. My daughter graduated from Tech --once a Yooper-always a Yooper!!

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