Jul 26-04

Past-E-Mail: Cam Notes - 2004: July: Jul 26-04
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Photos by Danielle and Ryan Mahoney
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Photos by Danielle and Ryan Mahoney

Mary Drew at Pasty Central on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 05:04 am:

Danielle and Ryan Mahoney, kick off the week with not one, but two typical 'up north' shots. They took a weekend vacation in the Marquette area. Looks like everyone set about climbing up the rock precipice, then prepared to find a way down into the refreshing coolness of Lake Superior... ahh, the lazy-hazy-crazy days of summer in the U.P. For some of us... it doesn't get any better than this!

By danbury; germany on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 05:18 am:

Good morning everyone! what early birds! ;)
First Post

By Therese from just below the bridge on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 06:16 am:

I remember spending a week up in Canada on the shores of Agawa Bay, where the rocky coastline was similar: great rounded mounds sloping into clear water. A memorable sunset where the water and sky merged into haze and the sun was a golden coin slipping down into it. Someone playing a flute, the hiss of waves on the rock below us, no other sound but our breathing. This is why we love the Lake. Thanks for the photographs.

By Marko in OHIO on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 06:18 am:

What a statement that is !!!! ..it doesn't get any better than this !!!!!
Just a lil jealous of those that still live in the UP.

By barb,MI on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 06:36 am:

neat pictures. Vacations are fun and these pics look like it was great! Good morning

By smf in troll land on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 06:47 am:

Good morning everyone!

By Steve,WI on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 07:12 am:

Is that the Peregrine in the bay, I think I see George waving hi to all of us.

By ywb/yooperwannabe/richmond on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 07:29 am:

Looks like they could be on top of Sugarloaf.
I know these views well. Wish I were up right now. I have to wait till move in weekend at NMU.
As least I'll be up for a long weekend.
Anyone hear how Darrell is doing?
Have a great week ahead!

By Dave H. Smoky Mountains TN. on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 07:32 am:

I'll have a Lake Superior on the rocks.What the eh,make it a double!I want the hangover to last all day into the night.

By Margaret, Amarillo TX on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 07:34 am:


By UP_gal on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 07:52 am:

I think I saw H from Oklahoma on the BootJack Road last night! Keep your eyes open. ( Kind of like Where's Waldo, eh? )

By Ms. Katie on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 07:54 am:

Hey... this is the earliest you catch me( in retirement)!That's only 'cause I'm heading for my annual labs :)Have a lovely day everyone. Besides there's the time zone difference...it' 6:55 my time

By Mike Mehrman, MI. on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 07:56 am:

Pasty Central should start a Finnish word of the day for our non speaking cammers. I'm half Finnish myself and I don't know any of the language, so this would be a perfect place to learn the language. Any one else interested in learning Finnish?

By Meggie, MI on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 08:08 am:

OH, YES! Lovely. Looks like right by the 'camp' there by Copper Harbor. And, now, at 8 a.m., I'm off for a dip in that lucious water. Enjoy your day wherever you are.

By Leslie at the Northern Lights Lodge - Cadillac, MI on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 08:17 am:

Hi Therese!
I was just at Agawa Bay LAST week! Your 'word picture' was perfect! Ahh... Lake Superior... she is "lovely" from any shore!

By The Dam Guy, Parasite Creek on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 08:34 am:

Looks like someone spent the day on the beach at Wetmore Landing... not a "secret" spot, but certainly a beautiful and less-visited one. The island in the background is Little Presque, another little jewel of the Lake Superior shoreline. It looks a lot like paradise... but how were the beach flies???

By Little Mermaid Deep Blue Sea on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 08:38 am:

Hey Mike Mehrman, I'am half Finn too!

By Missin the UP from NJ on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 08:42 am:

Both sides of my family are traced back to Finland. Unfortunately, I was the 2nd generation, whose parents thought the kids should learn only English! Darn! Who knew back then that kids under 5 can learn any languages thrown at them- And at the same time- And not be confused!
Yeah! Wish I'd learned Finn!

Beautiful pictures today. Thanks as ever.

By Yooper Fisherman on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 08:50 am:

LOL @ Lil Mermaid

By Alan, Kansas City, MO on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 09:09 am:

If you're only half-Finnish, does that mean you're not Finnished yet?

By elm on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 09:13 am:

Good one Alan. You made me smile. I needed that. Thanks:)

By K on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 09:43 am:

A Finnish-word-of-the-day would be great. The only thing I learned from my folks were the cuss words.

By allfinn on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:02 am:

http://www.freedict.com/onldict/fin.html this is a site with various language dictionaries.

By shelly/Yankee in Texas on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:21 am:

Ok, so what if you're only a quarter Fin, do ya come up short changed?

By Barb, in Beautiful Downtown Jacobsville on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:34 am:

Hey Mike Mehrman, your brother and family are already here.
You guys should be too! Mandy still misses Jake.

By Mike Mehrman, MI. on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:45 am:

Allfinn, I took a look at the www.fredict.com, and typed in boy and got poika, so I typed in brother and got veli. I then typed in girl and sister and got found no match, learning this language is going to be more difficult than I thought.

By Mike Mehrman, MI. on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:47 am:

Allfinn, Thanks for the link to freedict.com, this will come in handy if I decide to take up this language.

By miner's g-daughter on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:47 am:

If we learn Finnish, let's not forget Cornish, Swedish,
and Italian, too- and all the other languages that were
brought to da UP by our ancestors- how about a
language of the week?

By Roudy Mi on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:51 am:

How about Finnished on one side only?

By dmahoney, MI on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:56 am:

Good morning! The photos were both taken at Wetmore's Landing north of Marquette. In fact, the second picture was taken from the top of the rock in the first picture. We spent most of the afternoon there swimming and then laying on the rocks to warm up. That water was COLD! Even Mom, who lives in Marquette and likes the cold, thought we were nuts. It was worth it though!

By finngal fl on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 11:15 am:

Check out...
Learn to speak Finnish in 3 minutes!

By shelly/Yankee in Texas on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 11:22 am:

miner's g-daughter

I have 25% Fin, 25% Italian and a dash of this and that mixed in. Grandpa was 100% Fin/Grandma 100% Italian...what a combo! You should see the family pictures, one side is all smiles and the other side, well, I think they are smiling! :|

I think thats what the Yoop is about, a mix of people trying to make something for thier families futures...and they did, didn't they? Aren't we proof? I think it would be great to learn a variety of words from other languages! Whose gonna start? All I know is SISU, which I learned from this website!! :)

By Charlie at Pasty Central on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 11:39 am:

A fun way to view the Gallery is the slide show feature. If you've never tried it, here's a sample from Danielle and Ryan's vacation album.

By danbury; germany on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 11:53 am:

May I'm say I'm not yet finnished laughing?

By SDC, Ferndale, MI on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 12:30 pm:

Fran, GA and RCW:
Since you both are Dollar Bay-ians from way back, in my adventures in garage saling this weekend down here in troll-land, I found a old milk crate and it said...... CCC Co-Op Dollar Bay, MI.
Is this the Copper Country Dairy as we knew it? I had to buy it being that my dad delivered milk for CCD when we lived up yonder. Just curious.

By Mike Mehrman on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 01:00 pm:

miner's g-daughter, what the heck is Cornish??

By Jeff M, Tampa FL on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 01:10 pm:

I just returned from a 10-day cruise through Scandinavia and was pleased to spend one day in Helsinki, Finland. Cripes, I thought I was back in Copper Country! All the Finnish words and names I encountered in the UP were all over Helsinki! I even took a picture of a large building with the name "Tapiola" spelled out in huge letters against the skyline. The temperature was about the same, too...mid 60s in July! What a great experience.

By mckenneyp, GR MI on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 01:16 pm:

13 Day to Copper Country...Wetmore Landing (where these pics were taken) was one of my favorite places to go when I was at NMU. Lil' Presque Isle is in the background. That was a great place also!

I got one person who email me about Freda, saying the resturant has irregular hours and such. Anybody have any more info on this? Thanks.

By Roudy Mi on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 02:05 pm:

Cornish: Flavor of moonshine
Cornish: Look of Uncle Einos ol' pipe
Cornish: Some of this humor
Cornish: Folks from Cornwall

By vaaleainen on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 02:24 pm:

suomalainen = finnish
ruotsalainen = swedish
ranskalainen = french
englantilainen = english

Couldn't find italian. When in doubt, I add ainen to the end of any word and it sounds pretty authentic :) sooo, italianen = italian

By Rachel, IL on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 02:30 pm:

I'm half Finn, half Swede, but I grew up speaking Finnish because we had so many Finns around. Now there's no one to speak it to. I'm forgetting some.

Here's a few Finnish words. Let's see if anyone knows them.
*saippuakauppias (this word is the same forwards and backwards!)

By AnotherFinn on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 02:33 pm:

saippuakauppias = soap seller or peddler. Supposed to be the longest single-word palindrome in any language.

By mckenneyp, GR MI on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 03:04 pm:

Mike Merhan - being Cornish is to be decsended from people who hailed from the Region of Cornwall England I do belive. Someone correct me if I am wrong...

By History Buff on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 03:33 pm:

Mike Merhan - I agree with mckenney,GR MI.

Just as the Wales region of England has their own language, so I believe does Cornwald. I've been to Wales and the town names are like twenty something letters long, most impossible to pronounce.

Cornwald is on our itinerary for next spring and my wife and I can't wait. We'd put together a self directed driving tour two years ago from Manchester, down to Wales, back to Liverpool, up to the Scotish border, east to Whitby, and traced the Industrial Revolution including it's developments in trains, textiles, smelting and refining in Swansea,and steel making that allowed for the first steel bridge.

I'd highly recommend it to anyone who's into that period's Industrial history.

By History, but not Spelling, Buff on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 03:35 pm:

History Buff here - Maybe once I've been there, I'll know how to spell the regional name ....

By Frenchy on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 03:43 pm:

GOMODELON, Cut de grass in French

By RCW on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 03:44 pm:

SDC Yes ,that would be the old CC dairy. I used to help one of my buddies deliver milk from there house to house back in the good Ole days,late 40s I guess it was.

By trish, wa on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 03:45 pm:

Durdatha whye! (good day to you). Cornish(Kernowek)
is a Celtic language related to Welsh and Breton.

Coweth wheag,
Thove gwage. Me venga cawas hoggan!
(dear friend, I'm hungry. I'd like to have a pasty!)

By laughing blonde on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 03:47 pm:

Too cute, Frenchy!

By SDC, Ferndale, MI on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 03:57 pm:

Thank you for the information. This is something I'm definitely going to treasure. The lady that sold the crate was from Calumet so I was surprised to see it find its way down here in Ferndale and I would actually find it. Now, all I need to do is find some glass bottles that say Copper Country Dairy and I'll be all set!

By Proud former Yooper Finn on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 04:04 pm:

I like the idea of a foreign language word a day, but I would need serious help pronouncing them!! Hahaha! It's my understanding the sound of a word can make a huge difference as to it's meaning;)
By the way did anyone happen to know that Finland is the only country in the world with full literacy? Plus, they all learn English in school along with whatever other languages they choose (and Finnish, of course!)

By Bthecute1, San Jose on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 04:04 pm:

I think that learning how to pronounce the Finnish words would be the hard part.

By bobby, VA on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 04:16 pm:

Re: yesterday's posts about the aurora. If you look at the apod site today it has a close up of the sunspot causing the unusual purple / shimmering displays.


ps. the site is done by an MTU professor.

By Kathie,SD on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 04:54 pm:

Hi Trish, I'd like to have a pasty too!

By walter p tampa on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 05:04 pm:

once again remember to pray for little mikey maclachlan a little shutin in champion way thanks

By Mike R, New Berlin WI on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 05:18 pm:

A couple of years ago I bought a 1/2 pint glass milk bottle from the Milton Wisconsin Antique Mall. It has raised lettering that says Tri City Dairy, Negaunee, Ishpeming, Marquette. I have yet to find anyone that ever heard of that dairy. Does anyone know if there was really a Tri City Dairy in that area?

By Moomintroll, Moominland on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 05:19 pm:

Here are some helpful websites for those who would like to learn Finnish:



By Phyllis M on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 05:31 pm:

I think it would be great to learn another language since I another product of having grandparents from Europe and proud to know English. My lineage is from Sweden, Germany and Denmark. Two weeks from now will be at the Lake Breeze - hurrah! Looking forward to a week of God's country!

By Greta, Svenska Flicka, Milw on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 05:36 pm:

Still have lots of relatives in Finland (in the Swedish coastal cities) and all the kids learn Finnish, Swedish and English in school as requirements. Other languages are electives. Very good educational system as well as health care system. We could learn a lot from them.

By Marsha, Genesee/Aura on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 05:46 pm:

I don't hear anyone LOL at you, Roudy. I guess they think you're serious.

By shelly/Yankee in Texas on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 05:47 pm:

How do we say Good Night in Fin?

By Dave H. Smoky Mountains TN. on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 06:07 pm:

I have a glass bottle that says( One Quart Liquid Copper Country Cheese Coop.Inc. Dollar Bay Mich.)It was found under my Grandparents house in Dollar Bay.
And remember,You can always tell a Finn.You just can't tell um much.

By Fran,Ga on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 06:38 pm:

SDC,weren't you the lucky one!!! I'll bet you got all excited when you saw that. Quite a find!

Enjoyed the picture of the water.I tried to imagine myself in that cold water and how good it would feel right about now.

I learned a few words in Finnish when I worked at the Old Co. Hosp but I suspect they weren't very nice!

By FRNash/PHX, AZ on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 07:03 pm:

Here's one of the neatest sites I've found for those interested in learning Finnish.
I really like their fun approach, and there's very little more I could tell you that you won't learn here: Click®
Virtual Finland -- Who's afraid of Finnish?

By Moomin on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 07:22 pm:


Good Night = Hyvää Yötä!

By NMU, CP, class of 80 on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 07:50 pm:

Been up there many times, and really miss it now!

By steve,Brown City,Michigan on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 07:52 pm:

wanted to come up to the up,but apparently my truck did not want to.got stuck in grayling on my way up there;fuel pump decided it had had enough,also my ignition coil took a permanent coffee break.$600.00 later,I was on my way home.Oh well;there is always Christmas time.

By Steve, Laurium on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 07:58 pm:

to SDC, I,m pretty sure the crate stenciled with CCC Co-op was the dairy in Dollar Bay. My Grandfather Matt Koski, from Dover location, worked there for years as a member of the co-op.

By walter p tampa on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 08:17 pm:

trish what dialect are you using

By Yooper in Westland on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 09:02 pm:

Actually pronouncing Finnish words is pretty easy once you remember to roll those r's and how the vowels sound. :) All you do is pronounce every letter.

By John, Livonia on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:18 pm:

Whenever I tell people that I am half Finnish, they say no your not, you're through.

By trish, wa on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:28 pm:

Walter P, that was Cornish.

By larryk, nh on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:37 pm:

Yooper in Westland - Yup, have to pronounce every letter, including the double consonants. But how would you explain how to pronounce the letter 'y'?

By Ken from da UP on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 12:05 am:

You almost have to hear the sound to say them yourself. the ’ can be a tough one. Sounds like you're gonna be sick. :>) I'm in WI for the next coupla days. Gotta check out the AIRVENTURE 2004! So many airplanes, so little time!!

By Russ E. St. Clair county MI on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 01:01 am:

SDC, RCW, Fran, Dave, Steve etc.: I remember those old crates well! I remember many a day my brother, cousins and I standing by the back doors on the dock of the old CCDairy in the 40s watching them churn the cheese curds in those big tanks. Also those glass bottles with the orange letters being filled with milk! I thought we had one around here too somewhere. Maybe its at my moms(?) When we moved here years ago I found one with green letters that said "Richmond Farm Dairy". Gee I think we better hang on to a few of the ones we get now with raised red letters from up north near our cabin that say-- "Shetlers Family Dairy" Kalkaska MI "Amazing Graze Farm", "Our cows are not on drugs but they are on grass!"
(no antibiotics or hormones used) The milk is un-homogenized with the cream on top and a paper cap just like the good-ol days!---yummy!

By danbury; germany on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 03:34 am:

Y/Ü is simple,;) try tt or kk, pronouncing both without turning it to t-t, k-k respectively. Try as I might, I don't get it!

By Troll'n Eagle Harbor on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 06:11 am:

After an early morning wake up(wife's hand slapping me on the head...must have been snoring????) I decided to get up and let the dog out.The northern lights were were dancing to their own music.I 've already thanked Mrs.Troll for the wake up.Have a nice day everyone.

By SDC, Ferndale, MI on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 11:00 am:

Steve, Laurium:
Thanks for the information. I found out it was once called Copper Country Cheese Co-Op. I'd love to find a bottle (or bottles) with that name on it. I only remember it as Copper Country Dairy when my dad worked there in the early 60's. My dad gave me a tour of the place and with my nose plugged, I enjoyed it even more....Russ St.Clair, thank for your story of the crates...

By PK,MI on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 06:45 pm:

The saippuakauppias (soap salesman) enjoyed a jäätelötötterö (ice cream cone) at the rautatieasema (railroad station) :)

By Rachel, IL on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 01:37 pm:

To Moomin and PK, MI

How did you get the umlauts on the Finnish letters? I used to be able to do it on a manual typewriter, but do you need a special alphabet on the computer? PLEASE let me know.

Yes, and I know I misspelled ice cream cone, but already pushed the button to send before I realized my mistake.

By FRNash/PHX, AZ on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 04:19 pm:

Rachel, IL
How did you get the umlauts on the Finnish letters?
If you're using a recent edition of Windows® just use the Character Map:

Character Map

.. its usually found among your accessories or system tools

By Don , Waterford, Michigan on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 06:47 pm:

I moved from the U.P. back in l969. Lived down-
state since then. I presently work in Management
for Oakland County. Plan to live in the U.P. during
the summer months when I retire, which is not too
far off. Will have 30 years in on 2/05. Look for-
ward to the great summers there. Don, Waterford.

By Rachel, IL on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 03:00 pm:

To FRNash
Thank you for info about the character map! You know how hard it is with new technology when you get to be over 50...but I will keep on trying!

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