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In which two years on this day did we see the same picture? (a very rare occurrence on the Pasty Cam)

Good Morning!!
That would be 2000 and 2009.

2000 & 2009 and they're all gorgeous!

Good morning from MN!!

Seeing Double

Good Day wishes from Iowa! All beautiful pictures today!

Not one of my better days....seems my 'server' was playing tricks on me this morning....tried an early post for this page but it came up on Cam Notes. So didn't get a chance to see the review!:(

Today definitely filled my eyes with that "double vision"....

I really enjoyed today's photos, ending with the airport. We just flew out of there and it is a most familiar site. Flying in is more fun.

BEAUTIFUL REVIEW!

Hi. It is now 11:02 pm. I have been searching the internet since 7:21 pm. Being I can't seem to find any answers to my questions, I'm really hoping that someone will answer this ASAP with some answers for me. First I will have to give you a little history so that you know what is going on and why I need the answers. Our son, a divorced father of 3 boys (he has custody),he is not working as he is seriously disabled, he cannot get welfare as his time limit is up but he is trying to get social security (my husband and I have been helping him out as much as we can, but we are on a fixed income as my husband is a disabled Viet Nam Veteran). Our son has been living with a divorced young lady for about 2 years. The young lady is from the "Old Apostolic Church". In March, the young lady found out that she is pregnant, so they decided to get married. The wedding is set for June 30, 2012. The young lady has told me that she isn't allowed to carry flowers or wear a veil in their wedding, why? She said that someone would be singing at the wedding, but there would be no music, why? She said that after the ceremony, the preist will not say "you may kiss your bride", why? Both she and our son have told us that she isn't allowed to watch TV, go to the movies, play cards, participate in any sports, listen to music, dance, drink alcohol, play arcade games or take birth control. Why can't she do these things? Also, if she isn't allowed to use birth control, how will they suppport his 3 children, the coming baby and any future children they may have? Will the church support them? It costs alot of money to raise a child, and we are already helping as much as we can.
Also, my husband and I will be meeting her parents on Saturday for the first time as we have asked them to come for lunch along with our son, his 3 children and their daughter. We don't want to say or do the wrong thing and we want to make them as comfortable as possible, can anyone tell us what their other beliefs are? Do they pray before meals like we do? Is there a certain person that should say prayer? Are there certain topics of conversation that should be avoided? Would it be wrong for us to have our radio or TV turned on? Our grandchildren have always played football or baseball when they have come over in the past, would this be allowed? Would it be acceptable to ask the adults to play a game of bean bags? Please help, I'm really confused and I just want everything to go smoothly.

LISA; You and your family just be yourselves....I think the rest will be worked out. I always believed in just being your self. (sorry if I spelled it wrong)

Lisa, since you asked (though it 's probably none of my business), I'm hoping that this woman isn't going to stop your son's children from enjoying life as they're used to enjoying it. That would not be fair. If that is her choice, that is fine, but my hope is that she doesn't turn that whole family topsy turvy. Sorry, but that's my opinion on that matter. And mickill is dead on. Just be yourselves. That is who you are. I guess if they're disappointed in you, better before the wedding than after. You sound like wonderful people, trying to help your son and grandchildren out as much as you can. If they're happy for their daughter, then this will be good enough for them.

Thank You, Deb, for saying that. TO LISA; You are helping your son and grandchildren the best you can. My question is are you now going to be
'obligated' to help the girl he is marrying?

LISA; Maybe you can find some answers by googling 'Old Apostolic Church' and see what it says. If your son has custody of the kids, how about child support from the mom?

It also semms that you are concerned about the situation with your son and grandkids, too. Just be honest about all of it with her parents.

seems

Thanks everyone, but I still didn't get my questions answered... as for child support from the mom, she is a dead beat and into all sorts of drugs including meth. Everytime the welfare gets ahold of her about paying child support, she either moves or if she happens to be working she quits so they can't take it out of her wages. I don't understand why they don't put her in jail, thats what they do to dead beat dads...

mickill mouse, We've already been helping her out too. She refuses to work and now that shes pregnant (due in Sept.) she won't work at all.

TO LISA; I would have a very strong and direct conversation with her parents.

With what your grandchildrens mother is going through, it sounds like they are better off with your son and you helping.

Look at the top of this page, right above the picture, and you will see politics and religion, ketchup or gravy, and post something there to continue the conversation. I will find you on that page to let us know what happens.

I think other than her 'religion', who is going to help with the kids and the situation at hand? Be realistic about everything Lisa. It sounds like you are more 'concerned' with offending them, than talking to them about the situation. I am pretty sure there is more to all of this than what is being said.

TO LISA; I also think you need to ask the parents all these questions, someone singing at the wedding but no music, the groom not being able to kiss the bride and so on, and YOU should just worry about those grandkids.