Past-E-Mail: Cam Notes - 2011: January: Jan 18-11 |
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By Mary Drew at Pasty Central (Mdrew) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 07:40 am:
Oops... I'm sure that's what Peg Hardt was saying when this mishap with her vehicle happened. It looks like someone is walking off to get some help, while Peg is snapping pictures to forever preserve the memory of sliding off the edge, just far enough to be stuck. One of the cons of winter UP North. By Uncle Chuck (Unclechuck) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 07:55 am: Great photos, not the right vehicle to be on a two track in the U.P.! Hopefully they were not 16 miles back in the woods. By Janie T. (Bobbysgirl) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 08:02 am: By Kathyrn Laughlin (Kathyl) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 08:11 am:
Hi By Marianne Y (Marianne) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 08:27 am:
I love today's photos. The top one reminds me of a question, wondering why there seem to have been so many terrible accidents, starting with a head-on collision, on US 41 the last couple of weekends this year. I don't remember that many horrible wrecks, back to 2003-2004 through 2008, when my oldest son was at Tech. A week ago Saturday, there was a head-on, that caused one of the cars to spin, and hit a third car sideways. Apparently, very surprisingly, there were no fatalities in that one, which was near Michigamme, but it did close US 41 for about an hour. My youngest son was caught behind that one, having to wait for 41 to re-open on his way back to Tech from Christmas Break. He could not understand how anyone survived it, judging by the conditions of all 3 cars that were involved. By Janie T. (Bobbysgirl) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 08:37 am: Marianne, here where I am, winter accidents have been on the rise as well. Fortunately not many fatalities. When vehicles are towed in the collision shop my hubby runs, customers have been admitting to him that 4X4 and SUV's are not accident proof and that they have now learned they have had this false sense of security from driving them. Speed and distance are your best bets in snow/ice driving. By Gary W. Long (Gary_in_co) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 08:50 am: Marianne: There is only one person responsible for operating a vehicle AND for the consequences of failing to do so properly and that is the driver of that vehicle. It is not the weather or the road conditions or the DOT. If that driver is not willing to accept that full responsibility, they should not get behind the wheel and operate the vehicle. If conditions are so bad as to make safe driving impossible, then DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DRIVE. It’s that simple. Otherwise it may result in what we in the fire/rescue service call a “Life Changing Event.” I’ve seen the results up close and it isn’t pretty. By Alex "UP-Goldwinger" (Alex) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 09:06 am: Marianne...I think part of the problem is driver distraction. I am constantly reading about accidents on the rise being caused by drivers talking on cell phones and texting. Here in Troy, MI where I live, an ordinance is in effect that will ticket anyone seen driving while using a cell phone - no questions asked. The police will also issue a ticket for other distractions, such as eating or drinking, if they are not in control of the vehicle. By FJL (Langoman) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 09:24 am: Impatience is also one of the prime factors causing accidents. By Brenda Leigh (Brownmoose) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 09:33 am:
Gary what a great response! People need to slow down and accept responsibility for driving too fast for conditions of the roadways. My husband and I do a lot of driving in the U.P. and we have had so many close calls. It is always the result of someone driving too fast for conditions. My question is why do people blame others, like DOT, for accidents that do not have to occur. The other deplorable situation is too many people on the highways when it is extremely bad. STAY HOME.. because if you are KILLED in a traffic accident you will NEVER reach home, work or something you thought you had to ATTEND. Death is a final thing and you do not get a second chance. By Kathyrn Laughlin (Kathyl) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 10:25 am:
Hi By Shirley Waggoner (Shirlohio) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 10:29 am: In agreement with you, Gary. Most drivers who are prone to accidents in winter should stay out of vehicles in the first place....there's no excuse for carelessness. We've lived and driven in winter in Wyoming and N. Dakota, where roads are not always 'treated', it just takes common sense and concentration. We've also driven through your town on many occasions in snow! By Marianne Y (Marianne) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 11:00 am:
Thank you for your responses. As for SUV's, that is not the factor in these horrible accidents. They were caused by drivers of "very small" cars, as in compact, or subcompact cars, who lost control of them, putting the small cars into the oncoming traffic, from the first reports that were made public. By allen philley (Allen) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 11:04 am: Peoples judgement has changed over the years. Our warm SUV's give us a false sense of security. I drive the speed I feel is right for the conditions rather I am in the Jeep or the car and rather people following like it or not. Everyone liked how well the roads were taken care of in the past but do not want to vote yes on the taxes to avoid the cut backs. I have been in a situation like the first picture. On that occasion I had a 4wd Blazer. 4wd sometimes just gets you a little further in trouble. I would not hesitate to take my wifes 2002 Malibu on the trail above. By Musicteacher (Musicteacher) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 11:11 am:
I bet the Caddy was a tourist! They all drive too fast and drive inappropriate vehicles. By maija in Commerce Township (Maija) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 11:49 am:
Just my 2 cents, but I do think people are in too much of a hurry now. I think they do not consider the possible ramifications of their speed, because they have the illusion of control. By maija in Commerce Township (Maija) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 11:56 am: music teacher: there is still confusion on the voting for the Calumet Theater. See yesterday's comments. By ILMHitCC (Ilmhitcc) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 12:19 pm:
Arm-chair quarterbacking gives the speaker a false By Daveofmohawk (Daveofmohawk) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 12:21 pm: I think that the reason for the increase in serious winter accidents is because there are more 4WD vehicles on the road than ever before. People get a false sense of security and drive too fast. The fact is that most 2WD cars are actually better handling on an icy road than say a 4WD pickup with poor weight distribution, all the weight is in front. I've had both for years. Just my 2 cents worth. By Pat & Glenda (Gormfrog) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 01:06 pm:
Always better to prepare and prevent__ By Janie T. (Bobbysgirl) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 01:56 pm: False sense of security is the #1 reason customers relay to my husband for their cause of accidents as he writes their estimates, or totaling out their vehicle, or scheduling their appt. to be fixed. He's heard just about every excuse there is, legit or lame. By Capt. Paul (Eclogite) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 02:35 pm:
For years, I drove a Dodge Neon when we lived in Red Jacket (I still have the car actually). I never had any problems getting around in a UP winter because I made sure of three things; drive only as fast as conditions will allow, stay entirely focused on the task at hand, and keep great tires on your vehicle. I only ended up on the side of the road once in 12 years thanks to a tourist (I'm sure) driving their large pickup towing a trailer way too fast on M-26 outside of Painesdale. Worst part of it is they never even stopped to see if I was ok. By Marianne Y (Marianne) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 03:58 pm:
There have been so many comments here about SUV's and 4WD. But, I did not make myself clear above, apparently. The drivers who lost control of their vehicles and caused the head-on collisions were NOT driving SUV"s or 4WD vehicles. They were driving small cars, ie subcompacts. SUV's & 4WD are 100% innocent in these cases. Maybe not in all cases, but they were in these. By Janie T. (Bobbysgirl) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 04:09 pm: One thing about AWD, wether you get one, two, three, or all four flat tires, ALL four tires must be replaced at the sametime. Most customers don't realize that. By Hollidays (Hollybranches) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 04:10 pm:
One of the fatal accidents that happened UP here was due to a woman having a diabetic attack. By Therese (Therese) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 06:08 pm:
Quite a spirited discussion today! I live near Harbor Springs about 30 miles south of the bridge. On Monday morning a friend drove me to hospital for a test. The roads were black ice covered with powder. They didn't appear to have been sanded. She braked gently for a school bus stopping for a child, and the car's traction control buzzed for a long time before the car finally stopped. She was driving about 25 and keeping her distance from the next vehicle, but even then it was dangerous. Black ice is deadly. By Jeffrey P. Carlson (Dlineman) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 07:12 pm:
I was talking to a tow truck driver today and he mentioned he By wilson (Wilson) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 07:25 pm: the whole world just needs to slow down...what's the hurry??? it's getting just madding down here in s.e. michigan, the rat race!! By Donna (Donna) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 08:35 pm:
Wow...GREAT postings today! By Donna (Donna) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 08:38 pm: And...by hunks of plastic and wire...cars in the ditch need a tow truck anymore...remember when Good Samaritans could do that? Now, they won't even hook up a tow strap to try to get you out...for fear of ripping off the back of the car! By Cindy Pihlaja Russell (Gone2long) on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 08:55 pm: Donna, that neutral trick works for me too, even though I have anti-lock brakes. I always use it to stop on slippery roads; it really does work. It also helps to drop your car down into 1st or 2nd (I'm talking about an automatic here, not a stick) to take off. I see people futiley spinning their tires trying to get started at a stop sign, just making the surface slicker with their spinning tires. Drop it down a gear or two and it works wonders. You can then just slide it into drive on the fly before you get going too fast. I fell on my can today on some black ice in our parking lot. BAM! Right on my keister. The roads for driving in Lansing weren't as bad as the parking lots for walking today. Be careful out there. By Donna (Donna) on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 05:57 am:
I have the anti lock brakes too...but still do the neutral thing whenever...and yeah...drop it down a notch or two...great advice Cindy. By Mike (Upboundeh) on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 06:54 am: The accident thing is simple...Not paying attention to the road and speed... :) By JH (Thumbgardener) on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 07:58 am: All tourist drive too fast and drive inappropriate vehicles??? By John Robert (Mudlaker) on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 08:24 pm:
There is more than meets the eye here, the state isnt using just salt anymore, there are more accidents cause of what they use now, it's "something Cloride" By Maria Sturos (Msturos) on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 05:42 pm: talking about road conditions, my daughter and I drove to northern Mn. Park Rapids and Grand Rapids areas New Years week end. Northern Mn had the worst snow storm in history. We have never seen such bad roads. My Mn daughter said they don't plow the roads until after the storm so that leaves the travelers navigating by themselves and hoping to not make any wrong turns or sudden braking. I have to commend the Houghton Co. road commision. They do a great job in keeping up the roads. I was so relieved to get back home to Upper Michigan where I knew our roads were taken care of. |
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