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Charlie at Pasty Central (Chopper) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 02:22 am:

One of my personal favorites from the early years of the Pasty Cam, when Dan Urbanski transported us to a cloudless Lake of the Clouds.

By Lowell La Fave Little Beaver (Lowell) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 02:29 am:

Good Morning

By Kathy P. (Katiaire) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 02:44 am:

Good morning and congratulation, Lowell.

By Kathy P. (Katiaire) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 02:47 am:

You can always tell a Dan Urbanski photo. They are great. Welost him too early.

By Cindy Barth (Shekinah) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 03:08 am:

Nice snow picture!
It is summer here in Christchurch, New Zealand.
The weather is warm and sunny and 23 degrees Celsius which is around 73 degrees Fahrenheit.

By Lowell La Fave Little Beaver (Lowell) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 03:26 am:

I've also liked Dan's picture and I think I have saved about every one that has been on Pasty.com.
They always have a sense of feel and depth to them.

By Lowell La Fave Little Beaver (Lowell) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 04:33 am:

Its 54 here in North East Central Missouri. With Rain snow and wind predicted. Looks like our warm spell is gone again. Wed it sounds like the UP with the weather they are predicting. Snow and more snow.
You all have a very good Morning will catch up with you all later on. Going to go see if I can sleep now.

By Serena Sturm (Serena) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 07:19 am:

Great pic for this Tuesday morning!

By Marianne Y (Marianne) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 07:27 am:

Good Morning, Everyone! It is 39 now here in mid-Michigan. Between the above freezing temperatures overnight and the rain that we have had, we will probably lose much of our snow. But, we will get it back, some tonight, with more likely on Friday.

We are expecting nothing in the way of snow, like Copper Country is, though. When I checked this morning, Copper Country has a Blizzard Warning for tonight and tomorrow. I hope all don't have to be out on the roads tonight and tomorrow, just in time for Da Tech's Winter Carnival, that starts tomorrow! Wow! And, unlike some of the last few years, I have not heard about a huge lack of snow for the snow sculptures. :-) It just might be a bit frigid for the all-nighters tomorrow night.

By Capt. Paul (Eclogite) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 07:47 am:

Winter Carnival doesn't start until next Wednesday, Marianne. How do I know this?? The Huskies are in Anchorage this weekend and return home next weekend for the Winter Carnival games against the Badgers.......

By Alex "UP-Goldwinger" (Alex) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 07:56 am:

Fantastic photo! I remember the first time I saw Lake of the Clouds and it was then that I realized just how beautiful this State really is.

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 08:03 am:

Good morning! You knew which lake it was immediately, didn't you?

Well, we're back to freezing again. We did have an almost 3 day reprieve though. I guess we should be grateful for that.

By Marsha, Genesee/Aura (Marsha) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 08:21 am:

Who ARE all you early people?!!! This is my new background.

By Jeff Kalember (Jeffkal) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 08:28 am:

dan has some great pics from an ice skating adventure down on the lake of the clouds there too, the ice was crystal clear, spooky. what a great photographer he was.

By Mr. Bill (Mrbill) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 08:39 am:

Interesting trivia:

The American Fur Company (Astor) established a trading post in 1805 very near the Lake in the Clouds, an area later to be known as Silver City.

The severity of upper peninsula winters caused the area animals to evolve some of the densest, most highly prized, fur coats.

By Marianne Y (Marianne) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 09:08 am:

Aye, you're right, Capt Paul, thank you. I stand corrected. That gives them some more time to use all of the new snow. Hopefully, the conditions will be bit better next Wed night for the all-nighter.

That is a gorgeous picture of Lake of the Clouds. It is not only from a different vantage point, but also cloudless--awesome! Dan U really did wonderful work! He is missed.

By Janie T. (Bobbysgirl) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 10:06 am:

Bob and I ventured to that same spot on our snowmobiles, while we were there, some guy lit a cherry-bomb, the echo went on forever! This is a pretty spot no matter what season!

By Kathy P. (Katiaire) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 10:23 am:

Marsha, insomniacs!

Lake of the Clouds is one of the most beautiful unspoiled areas in the world.

By Doug (Greenhermit) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 10:34 am:

As an aside: Lake of the Clouds, was origianlly known as Carp Lake until the "Tourist Bureau" decided sometime around the 1930's that more visitors could be attracted to the area if it's name was changed to Lake of the Clouds. The river which enters and exits this lake is still know as the Carp River, and both the lake and river are located within Carp Lake Township. In a similar way, Silver City had originally been called as Iron River. In 1875 Captain Daniel Beaser platted a town at the mouth of the Iron River and named it Silver City. This was at the beginning of a short-lived silver mining boom which took place near there. After a few years and the end of the silver boom, the name Iron River returned to common use. Then, in the above mentioned hope for increased tourism, it reverted back to Silver City.

By Marsha, Genesee/Aura (Marsha) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 12:15 pm:

Mr. Bill: It just so happens one of my ancestors was Ramsey Crooks, who was John Jacob Astor's partner.

The name Lake of the Clouds evokes so many pictures in your mind, even if you've never seen it. Much better than Carp Lake. The overlook is so accessible now to those of us with knee issues.

By FJL (Langoman) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 02:42 pm:

How many overlooks are there at Lake of the Clouds? That picture was taken from the same public outcrop that I took mine. The public viewing spot. Only one I know of..........

By Jeff Kalember (Jeffkal) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 03:49 pm:

I believe you are right LANGOMAN, that is from the public viewing platform area - the far western end of it. You can walk along the ridge trail there though and get many more views ....

By Doug (Greenhermit) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 03:55 pm:

Langoman, the road leading to Lake of the Clouds used to end near the Carp Lake Mine adit with a trail leading from there to the escarpment overlooking the east end of the lake - the cliffs you see off in the distance of this photograph. Many old postcards of Lake of the Clouds were taken from that vantage point. In the early 50's the road (M-107) was extended a few miles to where it ends today. From here a shorter trail was built to the place this picture was taken. The old trail still exists (though it's unmarked). Another trail (one of many in the park) follows the edge of the entire escarpment overlooking the north side of Lake of Clouds, as well as the Carp River to its mouth at Lake Superior.

By Bob Gilreath (Bobg) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 04:00 pm:

Wow I just came home, the birds must be getting ready for this cold front.

There were 5 Grouse in the trees around my feeder ;-)

By Lowell La Fave Little Beaver (Lowell) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 04:06 pm:

Sounds like everybody is getting a taste of cold weather. The Temp has dropped here from 57 this AM to 21. Brrrrr Also have high winds with this, snow sleet and freezing rain. Feels like being back in the U.P.

By Brooke (Lovethekeweenaw) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 04:16 pm:

Snow is started blowind\g in Houghton a half hour ago (what happened to 7:00?) so heading home before its crazy out. Stay safe everyone.

By Doug (Greenhermit) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 04:19 pm:


Did you know that your ancestor Ramsey Crooks was also involved in some of the copper mining companies that were formed in the Porcupine Mountains area in the 1840's)? The fur trading post at Silver City (then called Pewabic or Iron River) was under the umbrella of the former American Fur Company's operations at La Pointe, WI. By that time the once booming fur business was just about dead on the south shore of Lake Superior. A few of the fur company employees still left at La Pointe began dabbling in the new copper mining craze, including Ramsey Crooks (though Crooks was headquartered in New York City he visited Lake Superior frequently). I'm sure these guys had become familiar with the copper deposits in the Porkies from there association with the trading post and the Indians who lived at Iron River.

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 05:29 pm:

We woke up to a temperature this morning, it's now less than that. 10 below last I looked with the gentle 20+ mph breezes, what could be better? Our weather geniuses got it wrong again too, not a single flake of snow from the possible 4-5 inches they doomed and gloomed about last night. I need a job like that...
Mr. Deb

By Theresa R. Brunk (Trb0013) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 05:54 pm:

Carp Recipe for those interested in tasting the inhabitants of Lake of the Clouds.

Take a 10 lb. Carp and clean and prep. Chop 2 medium onions and one small green pepper. Place Carp on Oak Plank used for cooking. Stuff veggies inside pan dressed Carp. Fill cavity with half a bottle of Heinz Ketchup, and salt and pepper. Bake in preheated oven for 1.5 hours at 350. Take out and let stand for 12 minutes.

After cooling, throw out Carp and eat Plank :)

By Marianne Y (Marianne) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 08:32 pm:

LOL - could that have something to do having the reputation of being bottomfeeders?

By Dunerat (Dunerat) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 09:27 pm:

About 7:25 this eve the wind veered around to the north and the
thermometer dropped six degrees in eight minutes. The snow
line is almost here (Muskegon). Sounds like it's going to be an
interesting night.The little neighborhood wild cat found me as I
was doing some prep work on the driveway and she is now
lounging on a bed, waiting for my daughter to come in and rub
her belly.

So Marsha, is it safe for us to assume Ramsey Crooks made
some big coin alongside John Jacob Astor, and this trickled down
to his descendants, and you are hosting the big pasty bash when

Stay safe in the snow tomorrow, everyone!

By Marsha, Genesee/Aura (Marsha) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 09:41 pm:

Thanks for the info, Doug, and the humor, Dunerat! The big pasty bash will be when I get the big coin, but I've been waiting for decades for that ship to come in! It's pouring now down here and all that will freeze later. Then comes the high winds (predicted up to 50 mph) and then the snow. Only 1 to 3 inches, but lots of blowing & drifting. I bet there'll be no school for me tomorrow?

By Dunerat (Dunerat) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 10:06 pm:

About two minutes after my 9:27 post, the snow started
horizontally from the north. Looks like bad Hollywood special
effects in the floodlights out there, but it's real and accumulating

By Marianne Y (Marianne) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 10:06 pm:

Your forecast sounds similar to ours, Marsha. And, they have a new term that I don't remember seeing before: "potential flash freezing of area roadways" caused by the rainfall tonight followed by rapid cooling (from current 45 to 7 overnight). I can't imagine school buses driving on a nice coating of snow on top of the flash frozen ice, with blowing snow?

For reasons unknown, 72 mid-Michigan school districts (not ours) were closed today? It was a fairly decent day in mid-Michigan, for January. I can't imagine why they wasted a snow day for today. Now, tomorrow looks to be a whole different story...

By Dunerat (Dunerat) on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 11:29 pm:

Wind chill is now 10 below zero. The house is shuddering in the
wind screaming up over the dune face. Might as well be looking
out the window at Vostok Station. Stay warm, everyone!

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 12:01 am:

Dunerat, I will gladly swap weather systems with you. At 5.pm. today we already had 10 below actual. By morning, the wind chill is supposed to be in the -40 to -50 degree range here in Minnysnowta. I'm trying to figure out why I don't leave....oh yeah, nothing starts when its this cold!
Mr. Deb

By JH (Thumbgardener) on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 10:19 am:

Marianne, my guess as to why all the schools were closed yesterday is due to all the icy backroads. We live on a gravel road. When it is snow packed, then we get the rain on top of it it gets very icy. Wet ice is the worst! That's probably why the schools in the cities were mostly open, but the ones that have buses go out onto the back roads were closed. It can be really hard for the drivers to get up some of the hills. When I was a kid we rode the bus to school. I remember more than once the bus sliding into the ditch.

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