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Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:29 am:

Morning all!
First Post

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:31 am:

I must thank David, Tim and Joanie for keeping me in here talking about pasties. I owe all of my Sunday success to them. Thank you Mikie for I know you're up. You were just too slow!!!

Love the deer shot by the way!!!

By Tim in Oscoda (Timmer280) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:33 am:

This is the day that the Lord hath made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it!

Morning all!

By Tim in Oscoda (Timmer280) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:34 am:

LOL...Deb does it again...I'll take the assist!

Sorry Mikie!

By Tom Karjala (Tom) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:43 am:

Deb in Annandale. You still have that camp on the lake nearby for the handicapped? I forget the name because it was changed some years back. Was a very good program.

By Grace M Wetton (Gmw) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:46 am:

Good Morning everyone! 18 degrees and cloudy here in Houghton.

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:47 am:

Yeah, it's called Camp Courage. Great camp. We also have one called Camp Friendship. Courage is for the physically handicapped and Friendship is for the mentally handicapped. A lot of great people put in a lot of time with these people. One is on Clearwater Lake (Friendship) and the other is on Cedar Lake.

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:47 am:

David, you owe Joanie 2 pasties! LOL

By David Hiltunen (Davidcorrytontn) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:50 am:

I wonder what the odd's were? I hope my check is in the mail.

By Michael Du Long (Mikie) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:55 am:

I want everyone to know that I would have had the EB this morning but Deb kept me busy with email. I am not complaining since she has done it before to me. Usually has Mr. Deb keep me busy. Deb fool me a dozen times my fault and I forgot the rest of the saying. Precious just bought new place mats and she got some to put under Jimmie the fat white cat's food and water bowls, says she wants them to match. That cat is treated better then me.

By Randall Ollila (Rancher) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:58 am:

-Deb S- Short Version. Sweety is the love of my life!!!! Tho neither of us realized that growing up and our families being quite close. Chance meeting at a Sunday dinner 11 yrs ago and the rest is history. Married on Mac. Isl. and honeymooned in Copper Harbor.
Raincheck on the pasties.

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 11:12 am:

Mikie, The saying is "Fool me once, shame on you", "Fool me twice, shame on me". And I do not purposely keep you busy and you know it. You slept way later than the rest of us today and that would have been your own fault. Shall I call you from now on to wake you? LOL

Randall, Sweet (no pun intended) story! Good for you. And what a great place to get married and honeymoon! You have that raincheck!

By Michael Du Long (Mikie) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 11:12 am:

Randall you are a lucky man.

By Michael Du Long (Mikie) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 11:17 am:

Deb, I need the sleep since I stay up so late at night that getting up in the morning starts the day with pain. It sure is fun getting old. By the way I never answer the phone when I am in bed, let the machine get it. Bad thing about it is I never check the machine and have been in trouble about it for some time now.

By Randall Ollila (Rancher) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 11:29 am:

Mikie- I think we are Equally fortunate ie you with Precious.
Thoughts at large... How about a 1st annual renuion of Pasty Camrs at The Hut, early fall to share memories and the color change in the CC.

By Gonna be a Yooper (Joanie) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 11:32 am:

Boy, that Deb is sly as a fox. Didn't she say she had to log off and start cutting up vegetables and didn't have time to get the "Early Bird"? When I read that I shut down thinking Mikie had a good chance! That's okay, anyone that goes to all the trouble of making pasties for a play-off game deserves the award!

By Danbury (Danbury) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 11:34 am:

As to improvements, even though I occasionally tend to "chat" here, too (guilty as charged), PastyCam being neither really a chat nor exactly a forum in the strictest sense (especially What'sUP) is what makes this site unique. On every common forum, whatever the topic, one usually just finds people that basically share their opinion, or are at total odds with each other. But to find such a heterogenous bunch of people, all on one site, that's rare. This is the only place on the net I know of where I can exchange notes on taxes or most any other contemporary topic with people from the opposite side of the political spectrum, without rancor, and the next day trade a post or two on something culinary, the only place that maintains this high quality, and does not drown in idle chit-chat (kudos to the blue-letter-crew).
Whatever you decide upon, I hope this quality stays.

By Gonna be a Yooper (Joanie) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 11:40 am:

Danbury, your words flow so smoothly, well said!
By the way, how did you learn such good English?

By Michael Du Long (Mikie) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 11:43 am:

Joanie, I should make pasties since I am a gormet [spelling intentional] cook. I am able to make any thing that Precious tells me to make. Good old Betty Crocker and Martha keep me going. I think that the best looking cook on tv is Rachel Ray, reminds me of Precious forty years ago.
Randall I think that people have said something about meeting at the Pasty Fest in Calumet whenever that is. Since there are so many people here in the Detroit area maybe we could have a UP picknic like they used to back in the fifties. I loved going to the Copper Country picknics when they had them. One year we had a UP get together here in Berkley, if any one is interested I will persue the idea. Spelling is not my forte today.

By Randall Ollila (Rancher) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:06 pm:

Mikie- Pasty Fest is a good idea although my reasoning is that the one thing we all have in common is posting to this site (which DANBURY so glowingly acknowledged) and that meeting would be specific to those on this site. Most who post seem to be warm, colorful and quite humorous at times, again I acquiesce to Danburys post!!

By Gonna be a Yooper (Joanie) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:54 pm:

Hey, now what happened to Deb's "Early Bird"?
Do ya tink everyone at Pasty Cam went to da Deb's house for da pasties?

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 01:04 pm:

They're trying to cheat me Joanie.

Randall, how 'bout Columbus Day weekend? That's a great weekend for color (we were there last year and would love to go again this year) and we could all get together and meet. It would be wonderful. And a lot of us would have the extra day with Monday who have to travel some distance. And you're right, we can talk about politics, just about anything without getting into a you-know-what match. Everybody stays calm and expresses their opinions. It's a great place to post if there are not people who get upset about certain topics that others enjoy talking about. Like we've said in the past, scroll down to the next post if you don't like it.

Anyway, let's work on that reunion in the fall. Sounds great to me!!!

On a lighter note, I have 9 pasties in the oven and am working on another 4 or 5. Can't wait!!! We'll eat and then watch football. What could be better for a Sunday afternoon? And guess what, we got another dusting of snow! We must be up to about 1/2 inch by now. LOL

By Danbury (Danbury) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 02:36 pm:

By traveling, Joanie. Not just to GB or the US (5 and 7 times respectively), but also to other places that required the ability to speak english. Also, when watching movies, I rather choose english as spoken language (if it's an english or american movie. Right now, "Serenity" is coming up). Books the same, not to mention the occasional english text I might have to read while studying.

As to the bird, take it easy - it's Sunday, remember? Also, that'd be expensive work, having someone constantly monitoring this site just to pass out early birds.

Derek: call it joking, if you want to, but it sure reads like exaggerating to me.
I don't know about UP there, but I guess it's the same with eastern Germany, here there's lots of old buildings and ruins, from medieval to former GDR. While the latter surely has added to the wealth of buildings of historical significance (aesthetical matters aside), a lot of it is just leftovers, more eyesore than anything else. The question is, where is the line?
A comment coming from a country that quietly but steadily is destroying old buildings at a high rate, impressive examples from the last two centuries, simply because they're not needed, in bad condition, and no one's willing to pay for the upkeep. Often enough despite the higher costs of demolition, removal and rebuilding, just to build something new. For reasons more or less questionable.

By David Hiltunen (Davidcorrytontn) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 02:52 pm:

Where am I going to find a 9 foot TV screen around here,going to a Sports Bar.

Danbury; you have spoken well.

How dose one feel of an Opinion Poll? Such as the newspaper in Houghton has.Or would it cause mayham

By derek tuoriniemi (Derek) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:02 pm:

"I don't know about UP there" - Danbury

I rest my case!

By David Hiltunen (Davidcorrytontn) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:08 pm:

Should Steve Irwin's final show tonight have been aired?

Yes,It's a fitting tribute

No, It's explortive

By Danbury (Danbury) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:20 pm:


By FRNash/PHX, AZ (Frnash) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:23 pm:

It's global cooling, I tell ya - either that or the world really is upside down!


1130 AM MST SUN JAN 21 2007

1130 AM MST SUN JAN 21 2007




Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:37 pm:

I am personally tired of the whole Steve Irwin saga. I don't like that he died but I always thought he was going to sooner rather than later. I always said that. You play with poisonous toys and you're going to die. Just my opinion. Knowing you have a wife and two young children, and still living the life he did, was definitely not the smartest move a man could make.

My opinion, let it go. We don't want to see any more.

By the way, my pasties were fantastic. They were juicy and had just enough flavoring in them. The crust was perfect (thanks to hubby) and everybody was happy.

By kosk in Toronto (Koskintoronto) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 04:08 pm:

Sounds delicious, Deb! Just back from visiting the respective
parents in the Lower Peninsula of Michigan. Everyone was well.
Definitely a blessing. We enjoyed good food and good times--
since none of the parents cooks anymore, real home cooking
happens only when we show up and make it. My dad gave us
some of the pasties that his church group made so we'll be
having them tomorrow for supper. Tonight, being a football
sort of event, we'll munch on sloppy joes and potato chips.
Hardly health food, but once in awhile....

We found time to take our dog for a walk in Maybury Park--the
ice on the "weeds" was a spectacular sight in the pale afternoon
sun. I was heartened to see many children sledding in Michigan
and also back here in Toronto (reminded me of something Maija
wrote about the kids in Commerce Township (?) last year. As I
walked the dog through the lane way across from our house I
heard hockey pucks hitting the boards (fence) around a backyard
skating rink as a mom called out to know if anyone wanted hot
chocolate. Ah, memories...

By Gonna be a Yooper (Joanie) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 04:26 pm:

Deb, gotta have your recipe, my mouth is watering, we're just having burgers on the grill, Pooh is grill guy and does it good!

Bears 16, Saints 0, sure is a good game!

Dat Ron sure is a good husband, eh?

By Kathy P. (Katiaire) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 04:52 pm:

Must agree with Deb on the Steve Irwin deal. Let the family get used to their loss and quit the coverage ad nauseum.

By Marianne Y (Marianne) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 05:17 pm:

I love today's archive picture, with the two deer in motion! Great picture! who took it?

Deb S.--thank you for your camps for the physically & the mentally impaired. That takes a tremendous amount of work. My middle son is mentally impaired, among some physical problems. He is mainstreamed with the Boy Scouts; he has his Life Scout, and he is working on his modified Eagle Scout rank. (Our oldest son is an Eagle Scout, so my middle son wants to follow.) And, he has done well in a variety of Special Olympics activities, from golf to swimming to basketball, etc. (I home school him, and he gets speech therapy through the public schools here.) And, yes, my youngest son is also a Life Scout, working on his Eagle rank, too.

Anyway, thanks to all of you who spend your time and efforts helping disabled people. :-)

By Marianne Y (Marianne) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 05:24 pm:

To Randall (Rancher):
Getting married on Mackinac Island & honeymooning in Copper Harbor sounds awesome! Those are two of my favorite places in the world! I guess I am more partial to Copper Harbor these days, but they are both super! I hope you have a very long & very happy marriage!

My parents were married 53 years before my dad died, & my grandparents were married 60-some years before my grandmother died! My husband & I have been married 34 years, so we are on the way...

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 05:34 pm:

Marianne, They're not my camps, but they're run by people in and around the area. Kids come from overseas and everything to spend summers here helping out these people. It's very rewarding.

On a more personal note, I used to work in daycare and I just sensed that this 18 mo. old girl that I worked with had a problem. She just seemed autistic to me. We had a talk with her mother who had thought something to be wrong also but was in denial. I think we all would be. Anyway, she had her checked out and sure enough, she was autistic. Well, it was early, and she got special care. I quit my job at the daycare and took her on full time along with her sister, and took a couple of other kids in too. With all the one on one this little girl received, she is now completely normal and gets nearly straight A's in school. You'd never know there was ever anything wrong with her. Intervention is so important. These kids are not hopeless causes as some people seem to think. She started school a year later than she should have but it was the best thing for her and she is doing exceptionally well. If only all kids were caught early. Granted, I realize that it is not always that easy, but if we can save one from a lifetime of dealing with those problems, it's been a success.

By David Hiltunen (Davidcorrytontn) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 06:40 pm:

Amen,makes good sense to me.

By k j (Kathiscc) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 06:41 pm:

Hey-Deb S- I want your pasty recipe, too.

By JH (Thumbgardener) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 07:37 pm:

Yes!!! The Bears win!!! I hope the Colts win the AFC game, but if New England wins it will be the same teams that went to the Super Bowl in 86. The Bears won that one 46-10.

By Tom Karjala (Tom) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 08:37 pm:

The Colts are in trouble. Pats are ahead at half time
Deb, I have been to Camp Friendship a number of times as my daughter was a counselor there for 3 summers while in college. Was impressed with the programming.

By David Hiltunen (Davidcorrytontn) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 09:57 pm:

If on Monday (tommorow) the Picture is of The Upper Peninsula Power Company,can we have shock talk?

How many people die each year because of Doctor's lousy hand writing?

Would you believe 9,000 ?

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 09:59 pm:

Well, good for her. You should be extremely proud of her. There are so many great teenagers who work there. They come from all over the world to work there for the summer. Some of them can barely speak the language, but they do it anyway. Hats off to them, that's for sure. I bet your daughter got to meet all kinds of great kids from all over the place.

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:01 pm:

Hey JH, if you're beloved Bears play either the Colts or the Pats, they probably will lose. I'm hoping for the Pats cuz I just love Tom Brady. I think you should root for the Colts cuz I think the Bears would have an easier time with them. The Pats just don't give up.

By JH (Thumbgardener) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:16 pm:

Hey Deb, I am just happy the Bears are going to the Super Bowl!

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:35 pm:

JH, I'd like to say "Go Bears", but I really like both Indy and the Pats. Indy won unfortunately but I will probably root for them in the Super Bowl. Who knows, come Super Bowl time I might change my mind cuz Indy beat my beloved Tom Brady. Sigh!!!

By David Hiltunen (Davidcorrytontn) on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 10:42 pm:

If you use the Environmental Wacko method of picking Football game winners, you have a better chance of being correct more often.

By A in Cedar Bay (Andytofu) on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 02:33 am:

Mikie, if you, as a "gormet cook" really want to impress Precious, go into All Recipes and you'll find superb recipes for whatever ingredients you have to work with. I've found that if I like the ingredients, and if many reviewers give the recipe 4 stars (****), I can make the recipe for family or company without hesitation. Just an aside, All Recipes has published one of my submssions--stuffed acorn squash. Best wishes and happy eating with Precious.

By Danbury (Danbury) on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 03:18 am:

The current weather is no contradiction to the supposed consequences of global warming.

By Pennie (Trolldiva) on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 08:28 am:

Deb, having a child with autism is a lot of work, but also comes with a lot of blessings. You are SO right. Early intervention is the key! We put Abby in a program when she was only 2 years old. She is now in 4th grade-100% mainstreamed (with some support) and her grades are at the top of her class. She is playing viola and is doing very well. I am proud of how far she has come.

As for Steve Irwin, we love him in our house. He made nature fun to see and learn about. We watched the special last night with Steve Irwin and Phillipe Cousteau. It was very good. Some of the facts about the animals were amazing. I was amazed that 15 million sharks are killed each year. The whaleing will soon make those animals extinct. The facts were alarming and sad. The whole special was wonderful and even if you dont like Steve Irwin, it was well worth watching.

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 07:52 am:

Pennie, I never said I didn't like Steve Irwin. I said I thought his lifestyle was that which was going to lead to an early death and that when you have a family, it's not the smartest way to live. I thought he was very smart about animals, just not the way he handled them all the time. His shows would have been more interesting if he didn't handle them the way he did. He was asking for trouble and he got it. Now he leaves behind a widow and two young children. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer. He could have still taught people about animals without endangering his life every time he did it. It's a shame for his family.

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