Week Ending Nov 11

Keweenaw Issues: Anonymous Ranting: 2000: November: Week Ending Nov 11
An archive of previous comments

By
Nick Adams on Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 03:38 pm:

Anyone who wants to give Mt. Bohemia a free plug for the East Coast ski market, go to this interactive site and post away:
Where is the best downhill skiing in North America?

ps: There's also a link there to the annual ski-special of the NY Times Travel Section with stories on the world's best ski spots.


By PaulEagleRiver on Friday, November 10, 2000 - 03:40 pm:

As I ran through todays tasks all people of Calumet were happy about the rezoning. After all they are just like us.They don't get what Houghton and Hancock does. I feel as though we should include the airport north into KEWEENAW COUNTY. Our tax base would be better and the real Keweenaw boys would be at the same meetings. Just wishful thinking. I won't know what to think about the lakeshore or the other mountains or the new county attorney until later!!! What I do know is that we have hope now, our business community which includes Calumet down to Copper Harbor is for once looking forward to new business, I will post a poor mans view when I get home tonight(THATS MINE) WOOOAA I hope to break into some new topics like advertizing, or maybe verbal support of this new oppertunity!!!SHOW ME NO SNOW FOR THIRTY DAYS


By Lynn Torkelson (Ltorkelson) on Friday, November 10, 2000 - 01:21 pm:

The most interesting national elections in memory! Republicans hold congress, so we shouldn't get any new expensive and ill-advised federal programs. We almost get Al Gore in the White House to veto the irresponsible Republican tax cuts (there's still a huge national debt), but Gore's supporters in Palm Beach are too dumb to figure out how to vote for him!

Fortunately, the way this election is unfolding, it looks like the federal government may be paralyzed for a couple of years anyway even with Bush in office. That should help to chop down the debt and protect us from some of the dumber legislation.

In the same way that the impeachment process helped the nation by giving congress something to do instead of passing dumb laws, the current election controversy could give legislators something else to occupy their time while the rest of us go on about our business. If a whole series of legal challenges and counter-challenges are made in all the closely-contested states, the whole congress will have unlimited opportunities for posturing without the need to pass a single law.

Too bad our position in the international community might make that activity a bit risky.


By Walt on Friday, November 10, 2000 - 06:30 am:

Paul,
Your best posts ever! So some lady walked into a closet and began singing the blues?!!! I wonder if that will be in the movie? Maybe Keweenaw Today will have a piece from her?


By Anonymous ExtraTerrestrial Focus Group on Friday, November 10, 2000 - 04:34 am:

While U Tallahassee Lassies gawk at Florida Election Results like roadkill converged upon by a convoy of partisan ambulance-chasers, I can only ask U this:
What the •••• ever happened to Pogo!?

Go Everglades...


By Nick Adams on Friday, November 10, 2000 - 01:17 am:

Thanks Paul, but like I said, think it through and try again tomorrow.
Forget cherry-rhubarb(it can be grown anywhere), and concentrate on the U.P.'s unique native species.
If truffles and caviar can be pitched to the gullible rich, thimbleberry jam is a shoo-in!


By Aaron Greenspan on Friday, November 10, 2000 - 12:42 am:

Urgent Stock Tip:
To all of you holding stock in the companies manufacturing punchhole ballots,
SELL SELL SELL!


By PAUL EAGLE RIVER on Thursday, November 9, 2000 - 11:54 pm:

OK here it is ,the boos tried in vane to stop the zoning board vote. They tried the atty. general thing, they said he should interpit if the new board member could hold a position on a township board and also on a county board.The board took the bull by the horn (WHICH MUST HAVE HURT) and was ready with a prompt answer. A book of Michigan laws 1998 stated that only a county board member could not be on that board. Anyway the board stands as it is. They acted like a real board tonight (MY FAITH HAS BEEN RESTORED). Order was kept at all times. That lady that I spoke of who went into that dark room by herself was reported to be SINGING of all things!!!! THE BLUES TO BOOT!!!!! She also was wearing pants but not as fancy as those city slickers pants I can assure you of that! Plus theirs fit nice too. I had a brief encounter with some birds who lost a few feathers outside the courthouse tonight after the vote to allow the ski hill and all related buildings to be built in CD-EP. (Cabins not included) WELL, the one guy with a big smile and another couple jumped on me like flies on ••••!!!!They told me that I SOLD OUT THE COUNTY!!! I took great pride in finally being credited with that. All of the kids told me thank you and to keep up the good work. Other than a brief reply about who's bank book had the most money in it, I found it to my advantage to try to sell them some of that thimbleberry jam everybody keeps on asking my family to make. I didn't try to sell them the award winning CHERRY RUBARB cause they no doubt would have had to make a money transfer to cover. Sorry to say they refused and told me to shove it up my ---!!! I replied sorry that I had no room cause I already have a county atty. half way up there!!!! Other than that it was a normal meeting, oh one more thing we also as a family won the best jelly in the U.P. too seeya


By AMONGST THE NIMBY PEOPLE on Thursday, November 9, 2000 - 11:12 pm:

Poker:
Hope you enjoy the slopes. Remember no sunday skiing.


By Nick Adams on Thursday, November 9, 2000 - 10:48 pm:

Paul:
In reference to your 10:14 pm Responsible Opinions post. That was a priceless rough draft! But if you would, perhaps after some Friday daytime reflection, let's hear a more detailed version of the political theater that transpired in Eagle River tonight.
I've got some Southern Hemisphere marketing ideas for turning "thimbleberry" into an international taste sensation if you'd kindly respond with said request.
Seriously(with no suck-up motives),
Nick Adams
Christchurch, New Zealand

ps: Glad to hear your upbeat news about the happy employed at Mt. Bohemia. The opportunity to make an honest buck is a wonderful thing.


By POKER on Thursday, November 9, 2000 - 10:38 pm:

TO "AMONGST THE NIMBY" :
No-one Is Mad But You.
I'm proud to live in Allouez township.
C'ept it is a long drive to the skihill.


By Woodsy Owl on Thursday, November 9, 2000 - 10:21 pm:

Give a hoot. Don't pollute.


By Narrow-view Binoculars on Thursday, November 9, 2000 - 10:11 pm:

Bring on the regatta! Let's try for the front yard!


By RAPPERWANNABE on Thursday, November 9, 2000 - 10:01 pm:

Paul: Eagle River News Flash

Were dying to know.

WHO?
I SAID WHO? SOLD THE COUNTY OUT?

WHO? WHO? WHO?


By PULP on Thursday, November 9, 2000 - 07:08 pm:

Amongst the NIMBY people,

Bravo! Amongst! And here's another one:
Pulp
Please Use Local People!!


By Absentee Professor on Thursday, November 9, 2000 - 05:22 pm:

Becky:
The Bush lead has dropped from 1750 votes yesterday to 340 votes as I write this and the Florida recount has not concluded. Since perhaps thousands of absentee ballots have yet to be counted, I doubt we'll be seeing anything definitive soon on who'll be moving to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.


By becky on Thursday, November 9, 2000 - 04:28 pm:

This racket in Florida makes me ashamed of the U.S.! What kind of people do we have that they feel they should get to VOTE AGAIN?!! If you accidentally blew it, then TOUGH- you accidentally blew it! Stick with the rules, don't change them for a bunch of crooked losers! The other nations in this world are regarding us as a laughingstock, and we are.


By e pluibus unum on Thursday, November 9, 2000 - 05:38 am:

That would be a "lower case" pulp.

Remember, we're not all retired with two homes. And not every kid wants to leave the ghetto.


By AMONGST THE NIMBY PEOPLE on Wednesday, November 8, 2000 - 10:55 pm:

More acccurate description for PULP.

People Using Local People.


By Your face will get stuck like that on Wednesday, November 8, 2000 - 10:17 pm:

Let's not forget: PULP

People unopposed to local progress


By Tired of the Coporate BS on Wednesday, November 8, 2000 - 08:27 pm:

Who is Joe Skoglund anyway. A lonnie wannabee.
Or just a lost soul flatlander looking to the UP for fun.


By AMONGST THE NIMBY PEOPLE on Wednesday, November 8, 2000 - 05:25 pm:

Following the Mt. Bohemia issue introduced me to a new term. NIMBY, not in my back yard. This was thrown out towards the good people of lac la belle and surrounding areas because they apposed the hill.
I was thinking, hmm, allouez township won it for breakwinds. Seems to me not so many years ago the same allouez township was looked at for a site for a medium security prison, (now located in Painesdale),just outside of mohawk and fulton towards gay. Guess what, the people of allouez township said NIMBY, not in my backyard. But yet seventeen or so miles north it is ok to put the ski hill in.
A prison guard makes $13.45 starting per hour, full benefits including pension, not to mention the other money in taxes this would have brought tot the township and county. How many guards at Kitwen x that wage?
Jobs at the ski hill, $7.50 hr, starting, what benefits?
YSI has had how many escapees? I can remember at least 8 since it has been there. Tax dollars to corral the little monsters.
Camp Kitwen 1 esccapee that I can remember.
I can tell you I am ashamed to live in this township. Now we all know that the Mohawk, ahmeek, allouez areas are also NIMBY's. Thank you Bob Grassecchi.


By Big Sis on Wednesday, November 8, 2000 - 04:11 pm:

Poker,
So you got downgraded. Use your real name, ha,ha- anyone know you by your real name? Saw the Mrs. on Pasty.cam working the polling booths. I'd like to hear your feedback on the national results- Hillary in? Gore even a viable contestant? What's this place coming to. You all blew my chances of getting my old man to move back to the midwest. Gore carried the whole blooming place. At least we have that right in AZ, the rest of the props... I'm not too sure about.


By The unknown pheasant on Wednesday, November 8, 2000 - 02:59 pm:

Cheap Trickster,

Walt sends his regards, and has four words for you, "I love you, too." Oh, and "Merry Christmas, May your New Year Bring one of good health and happiness."


By Absentee Professor on Wednesday, November 8, 2000 - 02:30 pm:

Snagglepuss:
I can't speak for the local absentee machinations, but at the other end of Highway 41, absentee ballots, mostly from overseas military personnel, could decide who moves into the White House(and I don't mean the one in Mohawk).
We may not know who that is for 10 days!
As for the alleged "science" of polling, it will be most interesting to watch our network news anchors wash the egg off their faces tonight.
Twice!


By Cheap Trickster on Wednesday, November 8, 2000 - 01:01 pm:

Paul:
YOur a riot. YOu expect a free computer. What about working for one like the rest of us. Sheesh, get off the county attorney already. There were more serious issues of conflict of interest than her. Seriously, the folks of keweenaw have spoken. So be it,lets move on with our lives. To art, and walt, I have two words for ya boys, not merry christmas and not thank you.


By Snagglepuss on Wednesday, November 8, 2000 - 06:07 am:

Professor,
I personally know several people (about 40) who couldn't vote because circumstance (a death in the family) made it necessary for them to travel away from their homes, their only homes, just prior to the election.

A daughter of one was talking to a senator to see if her parents could vote, some way.

So while these people were absent from their homes, their only homes, they didn't have the luxury of preparing months in advance to file their absentee ballot.

What was the intent and purpose of the absentee ballot?


By La Bohemian on Wednesday, November 8, 2000 - 04:19 am:

Mimi: So does this mean we have to learn how to ski?
Rudolpho: What am I, a reindeer?
Mimi: Rudy, Rudy, Rudy...
Rudolpho: What?
Mimi: Could you be any less Hillarious?
Rudolpho: On Dancer, On Prancer!
Mimi: Cue St. Nick!
Rudolpho: They say he brings presents for everyone!
Mimi: U.P. to Christchurch: What's next?


Nick: Wouldn't you like to know!?


By CA Finn on Wednesday, November 8, 2000 - 03:33 am:

Way to go! A few jobs and some development couldn't hurt that much-could it? Left myself 20 years ago. Is that the sound of flat feet heading south I hear?


By Absentee Professor on Tuesday, November 7, 2000 - 11:05 pm:

Comedic Relief:
Yeah right...like the UAW Labor Vote had nothing to do with it...
Women! You can't help lovin' em even if you can't understand 'em!


By Comedic Relief on ABC on Tuesday, November 7, 2000 - 10:37 pm:

Was watching ABC as they predicted Michigan would go to Gore. I heard "Corkie" ? say, "Obviously, the Michigan voters want more gun control."

Say, whud?


By Absentee Professor on Tuesday, November 7, 2000 - 10:11 pm:

At the other end of Highway 41, as of 10 pm, Bush's Head Strategist has argued that absentee voters in Florida could put Bush in the White House.
How do you feel about the absentee vote now, pardners?


By POKER on Tuesday, November 7, 2000 - 08:09 pm:

Editor's note: This message was downgraded from the Responsible Opinion page due to the lack of a real name.

I"M A LITTLE SHOCKED . AND SICKENED .
CROSS-WINDS IS A BIG , MONEYGRABBING CORPORATION ? THEY DON'T ASK EVERY GOMER'S PERMISSION FOR EACH MOVE THEY MAKE ? THEY'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THEIR BOTTOM LINE, AND THEIR STOCKHOLDERS ?
DIRTY BUGGERS !! ROTTEN , EVIL CORPORATIONS !!
BOY , I"M GLAD I DON'T DEPEND ON ANY OF 'EM . MY 401K IS FINE W/O 'EM , I DON'T SHOP WAL-MART , I DON"T STOCK MY SHOP W/ STUFF FROM BIG SUPPLERS. I DON"T EAT FASTFOOD .
WAIT . THAT"S DIFFERENT. THESE EVIL CORPORATIONS SAVE ME MONEY , AND THEY AREN'T IN MY BACKYARD .
A FEW NIGHTS AGO , I STOOD IN THE PARKING LOT OF MANCINO'S , AND SPUN A SLOW CIRCLE . WOW . LOOKS LIKE NOVI . THIS HILLSIDE WOULDA MADA NICE SKI-HILL.
PAUL , YOU"RE GOOFY . MAYBE A BIT OVERBOARD . BUT YOU DO HAVE A LOT TO SAY . KIDDING ABOUT THE GOOFY . I THINK IF YOU'D STOP A LOOK AROUND A BIT ( MAYBE YOU HAVE ) YOU"D REALIZE JUST HOW MUCH OF THE KEWEENAW IS REALLY ALL ABOUT JUST WHAT YER SAYIN . AND THAT"S WHY WE"LL BE FINE . YOUR VOICE WILL HELP SHAKE A FEW OF US OFF THE COUCH .
INCIDENTALLY, I HOPE TO GET OFF THE COUCH WHEN SNOW FLIES, AND I HOPE MORE PEOPLE DO, TO HELP MAKE ICE AT THE EMIL AHO ICE RINK. BRAD WAARA, A.J. BEAUDOIN, (FIRST NAME?) OJA, AND SEVERAL OTHERS WORKED LONG HOURS TO MAKE GREAT ICE LAST YEAR, ENJOYED BY HUNDREDS.
GOTTA GO. MORE LATER. NEVER POSTED BEFORE, BUT READ REGULARLY. GUILT GOT TO ME.
POKER


By MTU Lab Rat on Tuesday, November 7, 2000 - 09:04 pm:

Click here for a High-Tech Newsflash:
Do Androids Dream? M.I.T. is Working On It!


By Doug on Tuesday, November 7, 2000 - 06:01 pm:

Almost over, what is everyone going to complain about now? Never mind, don't answer that. Why doesn't everyone move on with there life, and except what you can't change after today. Move on with your lives.


By Clark Kent, Cub Reporter on Tuesday, November 7, 2000 - 01:57 pm:

To Walt and others who seem to think that K-Today is a propaganda rag:
The top story running since yesterday at K-Today has been Ted Belej's piece on the reasons for Voting YES on Proposal B. Give Michele some credit for making that choice.


By Rufus Cornwallis on Tuesday, November 7, 2000 - 11:49 am:

Confused,
Yes, a ski hill would be good. Development around it would be good. Any economic impact would be beneficial to this area.

We've heard the argument that we should send our kids to college, have them leave the area, and then when they have their golden fleece, they can return to the area.

And that's fine. But not every kid will go to college, nor should they have to. There are those who will stay and of those that stay, what kind of people will they be? Will all the good ones leave the area for bigger and better things because there simply isn't enough hope here for them? Probably. Has this been happening? Probably. Will the trend continue?

Well if all the kids who can go to college go there, and leave, what does that leave for the area? Okay, so this kid has been raised with the notion it's either college, or nothing, and consequently, that is what he achieves, nothing.


By Confused on Tuesday, November 7, 2000 - 11:40 am:

I am confused! I checked in here off Pasty Central and all this ranting makes no sense to me! I just wanted my 2 cents in- Making sure you all vote today. Democrats/independents are to vote to morrow, so all Republicans, see you at the polls!! I don't get it- what would be wrong with a ski hill? Tourism=$$. Simple as that. The type of people you would be attracting would be far better than if you were to open casinos!

Vote Republican!


By Walt on Tuesday, November 7, 2000 - 10:44 am:

But then, we don't know that they didn't "immigrate" here from another country, do we, these absentee voters? But thanks for enlightening us, anyway.

And what exactly was the intent and purpose behind the absentee ballot?

Was it to enable a citizen to change from one residence to another as they desired? Or was it to enable a citizen to cast a ballot who may not be able to cast one when the booth was open?

I saw someone compared the absentee voters to those who rent a weekend campfire site in Keweenaw. So what is the difference, then, between someone who rents a site, pays tax thereon, and another who lives here part-time?

THAT! I think was the point that was attempted.

And do we now say those absentee voters have immigrated to the South of France, or have they migrated south, for the winter, and who will be checking to see if they also vote there, as well?


By alicia on Tuesday, November 7, 2000 - 09:09 am:

Hyvaa Huomenta all,
As some of you know,i am the one posting about local geneology sites here in Keweenaw and Houghton County.I keep seeing the word,immigrant being used.An immigrant is a native of one "COUNTRY" who enters another "COUNTRY"with the intentention of settling permanantly.My great grandmother Britta then did immigrate to the Upper Peninsula from Rantsila,Finland.A better choice of word would be to migrate..to move from one place to another.
Geneology before housework!


By watching on Tuesday, November 7, 2000 - 06:41 am:

local,

Are you so blind to just be worried about crosswinds, open your eyes man


By Build it up! on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 11:51 pm:

I'm all for building the tallest ******* skyscraper in the whole ******* world right there on the top of Mount *******Bohemia!!!

Shoot, we could set up all sorts of high tech companies in a building like that, and shoot, those folk over in Canada would probably see it.

And shoot, the freighters out in the lake could probably use it for a navigational aid.

Yeah, open the floodgates and let's build a grea big *******skyscraper there. World's tallest. Hoot! Move Wall ******Street there and roll out the ticker tape!

We're sure to get some real tourists into the Keweenaw then!


By Billy Blastard, Brooklyn Location on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 11:40 pm:

Vainomainen,

No, it's best to save the *********Keweenaw for the new ******$$$$$##@@@!!immigrants who get to live here part ********ing time and then leave for their other exotic second home somewhere else, where they can tell people how to run their lives there.

Some real movers and shakers there, eh?


By big fish on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 11:32 pm:

hei hei, local, you ever hear of 'purple mountains majesty above the fruited plain?


By local on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 11:13 pm:

TO SKI OR NOT TO SKI...THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION!
It's about zoning folks. Please remember that when you're voting tomorrow. Crosswinds already has their ski hill. They promise they will not destroy the pristine wilderness area of Lac La Belle. If this is so, then why the worry about coming back to the zoning board for future development? And by the way, since when is purple pristine? VOTE NO and keep a voice in what happens in Keweenaw County as the resident you are! Big business has taken advantage of us before. It's time to JUST SAY NO!


By xmarksthespot on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 11:03 pm:

Tom Cat!

You're right. Tomorrow is the mystery. And it should always be that. TODAY is history. And it should always be that.

Today's history is tomorrow's mystery. And it will always be that.

Thaniks for your post.


By Vainamoinen on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 10:57 pm:

Yeah, "change in the Keweenaw" like, change
Paul' s diapers...ever notice that the Big Hill
Thrill Boyz are mostly incompetent
trash-flingers and losers who never could get
out into the real world and _do_ anything?
How many citations have you had, Pauly, for
stashing garbage in the sands? And, hey
there, Bunny S., you building a freeform
sculpture outa old mattresses and garbage
out there in Ahmeek? Lyle, you ever do much
besides babysit naughty people? Getta life..I
can't picture any of you as anything but ticks on
the Lonie fur. 'Extreme Skiers'?
Please...'Extreme Losers' s more like it.
Watch out, folks...those loud sucking noises
are emananting from our development pimps,
unable to do much but sell out.

Ah, but they forgot....we never give up.


By The Hills Have Eyes on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 08:00 pm:

Scuse me guys. The DEQ monitors release of wastewater from the CH lagoon ponds as to quality, etc, and the tests are stringent. And CH meets them. I'm sure the same would be done in a spray system. Overflows, as against planned and monitored releases, are another matter and should be closely followed. Seems to me that is on a township operation level? Anybody following this issue? If not, why not?


By Tom Cat on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 05:45 pm:

Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Thats why they call today the present.

Get out and Vote. Good Luck to your candidate and your issue. God bless America and peace to the Keweenaw.


By wundering on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 03:34 pm:

Free Flicking Speech, Bite me,

I didn't hear that story - of course it should not have been done !@#hole!

I am opposed to anything that would dump raw sewage into \b(any lake} where kids could come in contact with the crap!


By Free Flicking Speech, Bite me on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 03:21 pm:

Hey stupid •••• whatever the •••• your name is,
Copper ••••••• Harbor discharges its treated wastewater directly into the ••••••• lake. Now, you reckong just anyone would agree to that if it weren't A O ••••••• K?
So just what the •••• is it you're opposed to and why the ••••••• •••• didn't I hear anything from you when it was revealed last week that a local sewage system has frequent ••••••• discharges into two local ••••••• creeks?


By wundering on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 02:12 pm:

A member of the marching kazoo band,

Yes i have considered the things you asked.

In response to your


Quote:

But, no, some •••••••• (poopy-head) finds it amusing that someone would suggest a winter alternative to marginal life on unemployment, even if one qualifies, is again, amusing.


I personally do not find it amusing - others might....

I haven't seen may pro RESORT people object to the fact that xwinds wants to put a sewer treatment plant in an area that could pollute the lake and destroy a wetland area.... They say a septic system could to the same thing as a reason to put it there (good sound reasoning). I personally don't like the proposed treatment system. Spraying the woods during spring, summer and fall?? what a stink that could be??? Oh, that's right no tourists in the summer only winter.

Have they considered what that system will do to summer tourism??? I doubt it.. HOw about it pro RESORT people you willing to trade winter jobs at your RESORT for lost summer jobs because of the way the waste is treated?????

By A member of the marching kazoo band on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 12:28 pm:

wundering,
That Walt fellow is from Houghton County, Lake Linden, to be exact, so basically, we can disregard everything! he has to say.

Have you considered the thought that the pro-resort people are afraid to even go to the Keweenaw Today site as they are afraid of what may be lurking there? I've heard the original site was hacked. Course, who the •••• cares anything about internet security these days.

In fact, that was one question that Walt character raised awhile back--anudder one without an answer, I reckon.

And have you considered the fact that these last folks in paradise opposed to the ski hill and resort want to be that--the last man in paradise and they have no room for anyone else--not even if it means a few extra winter jobs for some people who may actually appreciate a few winter jobs.

But, no, some •••••••• (poopy-head) finds it amusing that someone would suggest a winter alternative to marginal life on unemployment, even if one qualifies, is again, amusing.

I guess that poison has enough to eat each winter.


Personally, I hope they develop the whole ••••••• area so there will be much to write about.


By wundering on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 12:00 pm:

I find it ironic that the pro RESORT people have not written articles on KT. Why? Not even in the DMG! Not enough reasons to have one other than because xwinds does? How about it Paul? Haven't heard many good reasons to have the RESORT...about the only reason was jobs in the area (at or slightly above min wage, but nothing about benefits)....but my opinion is that there has to be more....

The hill is there and will be...but the RESORT can be controlled....I think that is the major sticking point - xwinds wants the ability to do what ever they want and the residents want a say in the matter.

I am sure Michelle Anderson would put it on the site.

It seems funny to me that xwinds has formed an advirory committee AFTER the referendum was filed and they failed to get it tossed out on a technicality.....

Why do the pro RESORT people call the anti RESORT people names? See Ted's post on the other side...

Any responses????????

As an outsider, it seems to me the majority of supporters are from HC. I am not sure about the Walts location. Paul I know is from KC, but how many others are that post?


By Ibrahim Abraham and the Jesus Freaks on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 02:18 am:

I sailed the seven oceans
With a pirate named Psychic Psue
She'd customized her bathtub
Into a porcelain canoe
She was blind in one eye
Whore a patch on the other
And laid her course by prophecy
Then she blew sweet kisses toward the sail
While I paddled fervently
But one day I rowed so fast
We chased the future into the past
Till we found ourselves marooned
On an Inland Sea
So Psue slapped my frown and said:
"Turn 'er arond,
We're goin' backwards can't you see?
This ain't no time for diplomacy!"


By IA and the JF's on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 02:08 am:

Mmmmm, pasties are Bullfrog O'Licious!


By Ibrahim Abraham and the Jesus Freaks on Monday, November 6, 2000 - 02:05 am:

I crawled after my cowgirl's camel tracks
Through the desert on my knees
She'd abandoned me for an oil sheik
Cuz I caught a strange disease
I tracked her down to a Palestinian town
Where bombs blew by the hour
"One hump or two?" I cried
"Now which is the safer ride?"
Well Nader's Raiders had nothing on my bride
She cuffed my wrists and said "Welcome Terrorist!"
"The secret handshake is a sneeze!"
Then she blew her nose all over me


(more on the Sam the Sham's musical comeback after this message from Pasty Central)


By ROFLMAO on Sunday, November 5, 2000 - 03:11 pm:

humored, too,

You're hilarious. Of course people don't want to work! That's why they have found it necessary to pick berries and make jam to supplement whatever income they can scratch out by other means!

Of course, before they can go to work, or become self-employed, they will need permission from the state in the form of a license--and then! they can begin to provide for their family in work they seek, on their own, because the jobs are just so plentiful around here!


By humored, too on Sunday, November 5, 2000 - 03:08 pm:

humored,
So you would be saying, then, that rather than provide another alternative, we'll be skeptical and assume that people simply don't want to work.

We will put blinders on our eyes to any possibility that there are some who will work!

Now I can understand why people are falling over themselves to begin businesses around here, and why so many have become self-employed--nobody really wants to work, eh?

I'm humored, too!


By doesn't add up on Sunday, November 5, 2000 - 02:47 pm:

Add it up - I think contacting 6 individuals was a fair representation of the population. These were independents. Walt goes on about contractors, carpenters, etc. so I answered in regard to them. You can't convince me that all these people want to work. Sure you can provide me with more examples of working individuals and I can provide you with more examples of people who don't want to work. Maybe we should just move on instead.


By humored on Sunday, November 5, 2000 - 02:28 pm:

Doesn't add up & add it up,

Well said....I agree. Not everyone will want to work all year. The off season is a good time to do things around their own place...

I posed the same question to Walt last week (please see the archives).

The new hires in my plant only want to work 5 days a week/8 hours a day. Even though they can be made to work up to 9 hours a day. They are also required to work 2 out of 3 Saturdays. That is BY CONTRACT. Yet they would rather have a mark against them than work. Keep in mind anything on Saturday and over 8 hours is time and a half. Which in some cases comes to almost $30 an hour!

My plant also made the ones that are in the "labor pool" to come into the plant (with union OK) while on medical to do things within thier restriction. You should have heard the complaints!

Yet there are those who seem to think everyone will want to work continuously (like Walt).

So all you that think the younger residents (kids) will be falling all over themselves to get a job at the ski resort (after all that is basically what it is) - think again.

Ripley is a ski hill - Indianhead is a resort. and from what I have read Bohemia will be closer in scope to Indianhead than Ripley when all is said and done. So this is not about a hill it is about a resort.

I know I will be rebuffed because of this but I really don't give a !@#$!

Walt - are you saying that the stores in Houghton/Hancock don't look for seasonal workers??? I think they do. I also think that they can't fill the jobs............


By Add it up on Sunday, November 5, 2000 - 02:11 pm:

doesn't add up,
I had one employee who was glad to work for someone else one winter when our work ran out. His wife even asked me to pay him in cash for a week or two we found in late February. He was working for another "contractor" doing some work there in Keweenaw County at a restaurant in Eagle Harbor. As I understand it, his wife wanted me to pay him in cash so he could also get his unemployment check, too.

So, yes, though an unemployment check may be forthcoming, there are also ways around the "not work" theme.

You fail to take into account that not everyone qualifies for unemployment, and some of these folk are now working in construction. Have you heard of the unlicensed contractor? I'm sure you would not have to look far or ask far to find one that is both reasonable and dependable. Obviously by your post, you were able to do so.

I am willing to provide more stories like the above, with more detail, if requested.

Surely, there will be some who do not want to work. At the same time, there will be many who want to work, and the more options and alternatives that can be provided for them, the better.


By doesn't add up on Sunday, November 5, 2000 - 12:39 pm:

Walt - Here's a sad fact that you fail to take into account. There are a lot of people who simply DO NOT want to work in the winter. It is sometimes not a lack of jobs, but rather a lack of interest. A few years ago I needed new windows put in my home. I called several different people to get estimates. 2 never called me back at all. 2 said they would call but never did. 1 said the job was too small. 1 actually came to the house to look over the job and said he would call me in a day or two with the estimate. I never heard from him. Called him and he said he'd be calling me in a few days. He didn't. Needless to say, the windows weren't replaced that year. The following year a friend of mine did the work in his off time. I hadn't asked him first because he already had all the work he could handle. Look in the classifieds. Sometimes the jobs are there and people just don't want them.


By Ken I. on Sunday, November 5, 2000 - 09:01 am:

Take the "G" from "Gore" and put it before the name of his running mate, and you get "Glieberman." A coincidence?

Hardly! Wake up, Keweenaw!


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