December 2000

Past-E-Mail: December 2000
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By
Tom in Milwaukee on Sunday, December 31, 2000 - 07:47 pm:

Greetings on this cold, last day of 2000!

I know I just finished a message for the Past-E-Mail, but I need to add this last note ...

I was enjoying the Pasty Cam and happened to click on the "Through the Eye of the Pasty Cam" and listened to Charlie Hopper's speech to the State of Michigan IT Seminar the summer of 2000.

Wow, was I amazed ... I had had no idea how large a production there is at the Still Waters Assisted Living Community. Charlie, your speech was inspiring and informative! The humor sprinkled throughout the presentation gave even more "flavor".

We had evangelists at our church that were being introduced to pasties and pronounced it the way you attributed to folks from Las Vegas. We set them straight real soon!!

You and your son are to be commended for the terrific progress made in such a short time. You have a believer in me ... and I will sing your praises wherever I can!

On my next visit to the Copper Country, I definitely would like to tour your place and meet you ... and buy pasties, of course!

Again ... congratulations!!

May God bless your efforts and service in 2001 in a special way. By the way, did you ever get the van for Still Waters from GM or Ford?


By Tom In Wisconsin on Sunday, December 31, 2000 - 06:32 pm:

Hello Fellow Yoopers!

I am a transplanted Finn from Hancock, now living in Brown Deer, a suburb of Milwaukee ... after having lived in Waukesha and Appleton in Wisconsin ... after having lived in Grand Rapids, Holland, Lansing, Saginaw and Detroit in Michigan ... after having lived in Kansas City, Omaha, St. Louis, Chicago, and Madison!

I dearly love pasties and try to get them as often as I can; my wife is not happy when I have at least three of them when we visit Hancock for a week. I have had triple by pass heart surgery and have severe asthma, so she tries to protect me from too much fat & cholesterol ... but, hey, the pasty is good insulation for the cold winters here in Wisconsin! If you agree, let her know!!

My favorite pasty places when I went to Suomi College in Hancock were the Suomi Cafe and the Kaleva Cafe; I still go to the Kaleva when I am home, but the IGA Store on Quincy Hill makes good ones too.

I remember when I was a freshman at Suomi and we took a color tour at Brockway Mountain Drive and Suomi served two kinds of pasties ... beef pasties and fish pasties !!

No kidding, the fish pasties were for those who could not eat meat and they were eaten! I have to admit, I was not adventurous enough to try the fish variety!

In the "olden days" The Salvation Army Calumet Corps used to have big pasty sales several times a year to raise money for the coal bill to heat the building in downtown Calumet. (Some of you out there may be saying, "What is coal?" ... am I showing my age?)

They were able to keep the place warm all winter on the funds raised with pasty sales! Now the corps is in Hancock in their new building on Ravine Street ... maybe we can talk them into having some pasty sales there to raise funds ... you think?

Well, I want to wish you all at Stillwaters and all the pasty pals and viewers of this great site a most blessed and prosperous New Year.

May God grant you PEACE and true JOY in 2001.

Keep up the great work at Pasty Central. God bless!


By Jan Medved Wisc on Sunday, December 31, 2000 - 10:09 am:

Iwant to wish all at Still Waters a very healthy, and Happy New Year. Keep up the wonderful work. Love all the pictures that take me home when ever I get a little homesick. Thank You Jan Medved


By Tammy Hilman on Thursday, December 28, 2000 - 05:37 pm:

Bri,
Earl Kangas was my dad and I agree with the previous post. He was one of the nicest people I knew. He only lived in Dollar Bay for the past 4 1/2 years. He was the father of 5 of us. David, Tammy, Gerry, Kelly and Kara Kangas. We lived in Calumet until the Fall of 1976 when we moved to Traprock. He was loved by many and is missed tremendously.
Tammy Kangas Hilman


By N.L.-Illinois on Thursday, December 28, 2000 - 01:07 pm:

bri,Alabama,
I knew Earl Kangas. I didn't know that he lived in DollarBay. If it is the same man, he was one of the nicest people I knew.
N.L.


By N.L.-Illinois on Thursday, December 28, 2000 - 01:02 pm:

I need information on the calendars. Price and where do I order them?
Thanks, N.L.


By Carole, Sterling Hts. Mi. on Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 02:07 pm:

What happened to the Cam Notes next to the daily picture for this week? I would like to enlarge the Phoenix Church to have as wallpaper for my home and work computer but cannot.

Is this a problem on my end or your end?


By Janet Mikkola Rosenberg, New York on Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 10:45 am:

Happy Holidays Pasty Central,

Thanks so much for seeing that my first pasty order arrived on time. Priority Mail worked very well, though Airborne would have worked well too had I not had a difficult schedule last week.

It was Christmas Night and the smell of pasty baking in the oven brought me right back to my childhood farm in Toivola. We all LOVED the pasties, including our two vegetarian guests. Some of us used a bit of butter and some used salsa. Thank you from our happy tummies!

HAPPY NEW YEAR to all!

Janet Mikkola Rosenberg


By Rose, Illinois on Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 02:19 pm:

Hey Pasty Cammers...
Does anyone know where I can get the recipie for the Bavarian Creme Pies that Bob & Mary Schmitz used to serve at the "Johnson's Restaurant and Bakery" that used to be in Copper Harbor MI? I have been looking for a recipie for years but none can compare with the ones they baked.


By Jeff Paulson on Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 05:15 am:

Season Greetings from Baltimore, Maryland
Home of where they think 1-2 inches of snow is a major snow event. Thanks for bringing the picutres of home to us. We look forward to coming back home every summer and pictures like this remind us of how refreshing mother nature is in life. THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL PICTURES AND STORIES!!!


By steve ristola;Minnesota on Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 04:15 am:

I'd like to wish everyone at Still Waters and everyone who gets a chance to access the best website ever a very Merry christmas and a Happy New Year.


By Jan Medved Wis on Saturday, December 23, 2000 - 11:43 am:

Merry Christmas Still Waters. Have a joyous
holiday, and may santa bring all that is on your
list. God Bless you all.


By Fred and Peggy, Auburn, In. on Saturday, December 23, 2000 - 08:14 am:

"HELLO" PASTY CENTRAL
This is a CHRISTMAS greeting to all of you "Pasty Can" photographers. You have done a GREAT job over the year in supplying us with excellent pictures of the UP. We spend two months each year in Eagle River at Gitche Gumee Bible Camp and your daily photos keep us in touch with the Keweenaw. May this Christmas be special for each one of you and may God richly bless you in the upcoming New Year.


By Bethyl Holmes on Saturday, December 23, 2000 - 07:46 am:

Gods Peace and Love be with each of you that reads this...Greetings for a Merry Charistmas and a Joyous New year from snowy and very cold (just like the U.P.) Madison, Wi. Hope all of you are well and enjoying this cold winter. I'm heading for Fl..in Jan..
Love and Peace be with you ..BETHYL HOLMES


By ELLEN, FLORIDA on Saturday, December 23, 2000 - 12:50 am:

MERRY CHRISTMAS Y'ALL! THANK YOU FOR THE BEAUTIFUL PHOTOS, ESPECIALLY THE WINTER SCENES. LOVED THE RIPLEY SKI HILL SCENE. WISHING YOU BLESSINGS OF A HAPPY, HEALTHY, AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR!


By nlm on Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 01:02 pm:

Learned about your pasties from Midwest Living Magazine. I was born and raised in the UP (Menominee and Marquette) - ate my fair share of pasties during those winter months. Live in Iowa now and can't wait to taste them again. If they are as good as I remember, I am going to order more and treat my Iowa friends to a UP supper!!


By bri alabama on Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 12:06 am:

did anybody know EARL KANGAS. He lived in Dollar Bay before he passed away.


By bri on Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 11:41 pm:

Hey anybody here from Dollar Bay?


By Torreano on Monday, December 18, 2000 - 08:29 am:

How deep is the snow the snow in Calumet? I am wondering if I need to shovel off my father's roof yet.


By jack, idaho on Monday, December 18, 2000 - 05:04 am:

about pictures of an old town, i always thought it would be a good idea to find an old picture taken in a town and try to get a picture from that same location and elevation, and print the two side by side. to see what it was like back then and now


By Celeste Heikkila Wy on Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 03:04 pm:

I'm still somewhat new to pasties, but I do enjoy eating them when we get up to the U.P. to visit family.


By Brian - Indiana on Saturday, December 16, 2000 - 07:42 am:

I really enjoy the PastyCam and I miss the Copper Country having grown up there.

One thing that bothers me is that Hoosiers know nothing of snow management and I keep telling anyone who will tolerate my stories (rapidly decreasing number) of the deep snow and how management of it can be done.

Please snap a photo or two of some of the snow removal equipment in action (e.g. the big snow thrower).

People here can't imagine leaving their homes when more than a few inches of snow falls.


By steve gariepy, mich. on Friday, December 15, 2000 - 10:37 pm:

I have read my brothers comments on how wonderful my grandmothers pasties were. They were a work of art. But I believe my mother's were better.(Nathaline Reilly-Gariepy-Poliuto) I remember bringing pasties to school here down state for lunch. Most of the kids didn't know what they were.Kids being kids, some made fun. An old Nun told them all they didn't know what they were missing and asked me if I would share some with the other children. I did. From then on if I had a pasty for lunch, I never got to eat the whole thing. Go figure!


By BILL MARTIN on Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 11:35 am:

is that sara little from calumet??????


By Sara, phx, az on Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 12:07 am:

Just looked at the temp there. BRRRRRR! 0 degrees. Lots of pictures on national news re snowfall south of the u.p. Hope you are all fairing well! (and keeping warm)


By Minnesota on Monday, December 11, 2000 - 02:06 pm:

My friend and I learned about this site from our
Algebra teacher Kangy!!!!!!!!!!! thank you! we
love you!


By Minn on Monday, December 11, 2000 - 02:06 pm:

WE LOVE YOU KANGY!!!!!! He taught us about
pasties and how wonderrful they are!


By Mike Ellis, Redford Mi. on Monday, December 11, 2000 - 09:18 am:

A quick suggestion from this transplanted yooper.
How about adding a little red arrow to the snow thermometer to point to how much snow has fallen for the current year. Just like the little one that I have that I purchased from Still Waters last year. We bring it out every winter and keep it updated. Quite a conversation piece.
Keep up the good work, I get so home sick for the Copper Country.
Hi Lisa!! :o)


By jim ellis on Sunday, December 10, 2000 - 09:51 am:

to the lady who was looking for information about the woodenware manufacturing .send a letter to the alger county historical society and ask for the book of post cards it has one that shows the wooden ware people manufacturing at work.this from jim ellis,i was born in escanaba raised in trenary e-mail (jim1105@gateway.net)


By Curt Larson on Thursday, December 7, 2000 - 09:30 pm:

Hello Pasty Central,

My Dad was born in Tri-Mountain long ago, when there used to be a hospital. His grandfather was killed in the Painesdale mine. When I was younger, we came up to South Range to visit Aiti (my great grandmother) several times a year. I haven't been back for several years, but I now have a place on Mackinac Island and every time I go I cross the Bridge, because once I cross the Bridge I feel like I'm home.

I ordered a dozen pasties for my Dad again, who now lives in Alabama. He loves them! And I secretly think it reminds him of home.

Thanks for the great pasties, and the great memories and the connection to home.


By Clifford Randell on Thursday, December 7, 2000 - 07:26 pm:

Greetings CheddarJohn.
I was finally able to locate your messagem but am afraid to try to respond for fear of getting an
"illegal" response again. Hopefully Charlie will clear it up soon and I will read your message.and respond soon.
Thanks for responding!
In Christ alone,
Cliff


By Lydia Marie Godell Fowler on Wednesday, December 6, 2000 - 03:28 pm:

I ordered twelve pasties last Friday (December 1).
I ordered four for my niece in Charlotte, NC, four
for my nephew in Ashland KY and four for myself
here in Coopersville (near Grand Rapids) MI. I
received mine yesterday.

Today I went to a local pub and gave three of them
away. One person there has family (Finns) in Chassell which is my home town. I took the fourth
one and ate it there. It was the best pasty I
have ever eaten.

I did not eat all of it because I knew that my dog
Rikas Mies (Rich Man in English) would enjoy it.
And he did.

As my nephew would say it was sykahyva (awesome).

The employees at the pub are excited and I am
sure that Still Waters will receive orders from
them.

But, of course I am sure that many of the residents there have many years of experience
making pasties.

The making of pasties is so much more exciting and
meaningful to the residents than to do kindergarten prgojects such as they do in a lot
of homes.

Again, kiitos for doing a great pasty!

Lydia Marie ja Rikas Mies


By Alicia, Mi. on Wednesday, December 6, 2000 - 02:38 pm:

I like cheddar Johns idea of interviewing residents.I bet that they have some interesting stories of living here throughout the years!Ask them if anyone remembers the elephant that is supposed to be buried near the old Schoolcraft Cemetery.I partially recorded the cemetery this summer and was on the look out for the deepest pit or the biggest mound.I found neither.
Terveisia,
Alicia


By tom-england on Wednesday, December 6, 2000 - 04:52 am:

this site is very very good, but makes me really hungry...can you deliver to England???

me and my friend Joe are really hungry and would love a AMERICAN PASTY!!!


By Greg Gariepy mi. on Tuesday, December 5, 2000 - 11:13 pm:

Deer season has ended and camps are sealed until next year,but the stories of the big buck that got away will last until next season.At the end of the season,as do my brother Eds thoughts, my thoughts also drift back to the Copper Country an our uncle Joe Reillys deer camp.We always loved the stories uncle Joe and our dad Paul (Arthur) Gariepy told us when we were kids.although I missed the chance of hunting the U.P.with my dad he died in 1982.I do have fond memories of hunting with my three brothers and our dad in Roger City.This was my first deer season with my son Jeff. I hope to have many more with my sons and hope to get to the U.P. for many of them along with my brothers. best of luck with this site, I know bring it up every day.


By CheddarJohn on Tuesday, December 5, 2000 - 03:41 pm:

CLIFFORD RANDELL: I'm not from Florida--but I do a web site on a Florida event--http://www.geocities.com/brandedhand. Check it out--leave a message, let me know what you think.

St. Nick's day is tomorrow. Oh, I do hope St. Nick brings me pasties! I've been a good boy this year--really, I have! (Well, don't read some of my posts on pasty-dot-com.) You can bring them frozen! I can cook! Please, St. Nick--bring pasties!


By Sara T., Phx, AZ on Tuesday, December 5, 2000 - 12:31 pm:

Clifford,
Do not know about the tar ditches- but enjoyed reading your memories. "bagging cars"- and chasing down the mitten that always got stuck on the bumper! I could vividly picture the blueberries hitting the bottom of the bucket- and hear the sound.
Thanks!


By Fred Andrew, Georgia on Monday, December 4, 2000 - 10:43 am:

Dear Mr. Hopper and friends,

I have thoroughly enjoyed the pasty central website this
past weekend.

My father (David Andrew 1918-1986) was born and raised
in Houghton and graduated from Michigan Tech, and my mother,
(Sarah Haapanen 1919-1999) was born and raised in Hancock
and graduated from Suomi College and the University of
Minnesota. They knew eachother as children, but became reacquainted
in Washington, D.C., where my father was in the Army and my mother
in the WAVES. They were married in 1944, settled in
Connecticut with a small child (me) in 1946, and stayed there,
where my brother and sister were born.

We frequently vacationed in the Copper Country during the
50's, and I have fond memories of pasty picnics at Bete Gris,
fishing in the Baraga plains and Sturgeon River,
and of views of the Quincy mine. My last visit to the area was in 1971.
My parents regularly received jars of Thimbleberry jam from the Jam
Lady. I am now on my last jar supplied by a competitor.

My father, sister, and I have all made pasties, although
now my wife is insisting I lower my choleserol and cut
back on red meat and pie crust!

I thoroughly enjoyed looking at the picture of the bridge
and visiting the local merchants. I've now found where
to get jam and pasties, where to get more of the Finnish
crystal of my mother's that my wife likes so much, where
to replace the puukko I left in my 1973 Chevy when I traded
it in, and even where to get a new plow blade, in case it
ever snows much here in Atlanta!

Keep up the good work. I hope we can vacation in Keewenaw
before long.

Fred Andrew


By Ellen, Florida on Monday, December 4, 2000 - 12:33 am:

I remember a winter as a small child, in the Forties, when the snow was up to the rooftops, but I can't remember any doors on the roofs. I remember tunnels from the door to the road. Of course, being so small they may have just seemed like tunnels to me. I also remember the snow being higher than the storm fences in the cow pasture in Hancock up on Quincy Hill and everyone came to slide down the icy slopes.


By Ed Gariepy on Sunday, December 3, 2000 - 06:31 pm:

As deer season ends and I field dress my southern Michigan buck, my thoughts drift back to the Copper Country and my Uncle Joe Reilly. I betcha he could give me a few pointers on this. He always enjoys deer season and I think of him often during my time hunting. Nice sight. Keep up the good work at pasty.com


By CLIFFORD RANDELL mi on Sunday, December 3, 2000 - 03:22 pm:

GREETINGS FLORIDA "BUMS",

i WOULD ENJOY HEARING FROM ANYONE WHO GREW UP IN THE FLORIDA ARES, AS WE USED TO SAY-"NOT THE FLORIDA WHERE THE ORANGE GROW, BUT WHERE THE TAR DITCH FLOWS." THE TAR DITCH WSENT RIGHT THROUGH OUR ALLEY AND iI OULD TELL YOU A NUMBER OF STORIES CONNECTED WITH IT. NOW AFTER ALL THESE YEARS THEY FELT THAT IT NEEDED TO BE CLEANED UP.(ACTUALLY THE TAR WHICH WAS OFTEN SIX OR MORE INCHES THICK WAS USED TO TAR GARAGE ROOFS BE SOME ENTERPRIZING FOLKS) WASHED DOWN THE DITCH, OVER BIG FALLS AND INTO THE TORCH ON ITS WAY TO LAKE SUPERIOR, SUCKERS WERE ABUNDANT IN ITS WATERS WHEN IN THE TRAPROCK RIVER SO IT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN TOO BAD AND WE USED TO SWIN THERE AS WELL WITH NO APARENT HARM.
NEVERTHELESS, IT WAS A GREAT PLACE TO GROW UP AND LIFE WAS GOOD.
EVEN THE SNOWS OF WINTER DIDN'T SEEM TO CRIMP OUR STYLE WITH CROSS COUNTRY SKIIN, SKATING ON THE FROG POND, HANGING ON THE BACKS OF CARS. IN THE SUMMER IT WAS SWIMMING AT INCLINE, HIKING OUT TO THE BIG LAKE FOR A FEW DAYS TO SWIM AND PICK BLUE BERRIES. BY THE WAY ONE OF THE MOST LONESOME SOUNDS IN THE WORLD IS HEARD WHEN BLUE BERRIS HIT THE BOTTOM OF A FIVE-POUND LARD PAIL!
ENOUGH FOR NOW.
IN CHRIST ALONE,
CLIFF (DON() RRANDELL


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By h.s. on Sunday, December 3, 2000 - 12:49 pm:

remember franks pasties from ahmeek..they were so good..no one makes pasties lke the people in the copper country..


By Florida on Sunday, December 3, 2000 - 09:26 am:

Of course we lived in Lake Linden, which was the Banana Belt. I think they got more snow in Calumet.


By Florida on Sunday, December 3, 2000 - 09:25 am:

Norm,
I have never seen a door in the roof although that doesn't mean they don't exist. I also never saw snow that high. We had a window in the upstairs bathroom that opened over the roof of an enclosed sunporch on the back of the house. I seem to remember one of my older sisters speaking of a time when the snow was so high they had to exit the house through that window onto the roof. That may have been just a story and was certinly not within my memory. I'll e mail her and see if it is true and get back to you.


By CLIFFORD RANDELL on Saturday, December 2, 2000 - 10:19 pm:

GREETINGS,
I NOW KNOW HOW TO POST A MESSAGE

MY MISSING MESSAGE RE-APPEARED WHEN i POSTED THE SECOND ONE. i AM FINE NOW AND WILL AWAIT A RESPOSE.
IN CHRIST ALONE,
CLIFFORD RANDELL
gOD BLESS!


By CLIFFORD RANDELL on Saturday, December 2, 2000 - 10:14 pm:

HI,
I AM TESTING TO SEE HOW TO SEND A MESSAGE. I WROTE ONE AND IT APPEARED ON THE MESSAGE BOARD AND THEN IT DISAPPEARED,
CLIFF


By CLIFFORD RANDELL on Saturday, December 2, 2000 - 10:05 pm:

GREETINGS,
i AM NEW TO pASTY/NET. I WOUL;D ENJOY COMMUNICATING WITH SOMEONE INTERESTED IN THE BIBLE AND TRUE CHRISTIANITY. I AM PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN UNITY IN THE BODY OF CHRIST/ i DO NOT BELONG TO AN DENOMINATION SO HAVE SECTRIAN BIAS.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME IT WOULD BE BETTER TO WRITE TO ME AT MY E-MAIL ADDRESS WHICH IS:CLANDELL5@YAHOO.COM.
HOWEVER ANY COMMUNICATION WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
IN CHRIST ALONE,
CLIFFORD RANDELL


By MIKE GARIEPY on Saturday, December 2, 2000 - 06:08 pm:

GREG GARIEPY AND I, HAVE ONLY ONE DISPUTE. WE BOTH AGREE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE HISTORY OF THE AREA. THE DISPUTE THOUGH IS THIS. GRAMMA REILLYS PASTIES WERE GREAT. BUT I BELIEVE HER RAVIOLIES WERE EVEN BETTER. BECAUSE OF HER SECRET INGREADIANT, " BARONIES SAUCE" BY THE WAY I HAVE SERVED MY GRANDMAS "SECRET RECIPE" TO MANY OF MY FRIENDS. THEY ALL LOVE IT. THEY THINK IT SHOULD BE PUBLISHED,BUT I AM KEEPING IT IN THE FAMILY.

By the way, that secret sauce is available right here at Pasty Central. Go to
www.baronis.com


By norm, west olive mi on Saturday, December 2, 2000 - 12:26 pm:

hey all you OLDER yoopers---
i'm searching for any info on the BAESKE name that i think were in calumet. my mother was born there and i remember she had a picture of their house and it had a door in the roof and a ladder so when the snow covered the house doors, you could still get in and out. the picture showed snow nearly up to the roof line. i can't get anyone to believe me about this roof door. i was in calumet last summer and looked all over for a house that had one and didn't find one. anyone heard of one???


By Jan, Lake Zurich, Illinois on Saturday, December 2, 2000 - 09:55 am:

Dear Nina and Rebecca, Thanks for responding. Although I grew up in Lower Michigan my Dad and his family were from Lake Linden and my mom was from Calumet (house next to Italian Hall Disaster). My mother resides near Portage Entry and we spend time there in the summer. How has your adjustment been to Illinois? If the Copper Country offered industry and employment would you be living there now? Talk to you soon. Jan


By CheddarJohn on Friday, December 1, 2000 - 01:48 pm:

I like Greg Gariepy's idea--old photos of the towns. What did they look like? Or maybe some of your residents, when you have them on the Pasty Cam--maybe a photo from their younger years? How about a "Still Waters Resident of the Week"--with pics old and new and what they did growing up and their occupation and all that wonderful stuff. A sort of living, digital history book of sorts.


By Greg Gariepy mi on Friday, December 1, 2000 - 10:16 am:

Hi I just found your site and I like it. do you ever put pictures of what the towns looked like in the early years? And last are your pasties as good as my grandma Reilly's from Laurium


By R Somero CA on Friday, December 1, 2000 - 03:28 am:

Not only the last day of November, it's the start of the last month of the year 2000! Whew-that went fast!